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Old 24-06-2008, 15:14   #31
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!

I thought it was a good advert, not offensive at all

The kiss was only a peck, like famous people kiss, like friends kiss, wasn't a full on snog
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Old 24-06-2008, 15:29   #32
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!

I think if people get wound up about this ... they have too much time on their hands!
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Old 24-06-2008, 15:32   #33
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What the hell is the Accy Web coming to? I switch on here to catch up with the local gossip, acts of criminality and council stupidity and what do I find? Not one, but two threads about our gay chums. Enough is enough. If it is to be sodomy on tap then can there please be a seperate section?
Funnly I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 24-06-2008, 15:44   #34
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!

Just echoing other people's thoughts on this advert.

I have just watched it, and would have taken it as others ... never would have considered they were depicted as 'gays' at all ... just thought it was a clever way of showing what us mothers feel like sometimes when the family needs feeding. The kiss just made me laugh .. particularly when the Deli man calls him over to say "Haven't you forgotten something". How many times have us women said that.

Offensive .. not at all. As for explaining it to the children, not difficult for me as this is the way I saw it.
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Old 24-06-2008, 15:47   #35
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How is it 'over the top'?! There are countless adverts where we see a man & woman kiss.. but just because its two men you think its over the top and 'dont like it'! What you have basically just said is homophobic, and its people like you who give children of today the impression that homosexuality is wrong, which leads to bullying throughout schools, and other acts of discrimination such as racism etc.

Absolutely no justification for your comments.
O.K. you've had your hissy fit and proved yourself to be like Elton, you seem to be erring on the side of hetrophobic THE sexuality that although is considered the norm' isn't compulsory if you wish to sleep on the brown side of the sheets, fine, just don't expect it to be an easy ride!

Why on earth people like you call yourselves 'gay', I've no idea you all seem more depressed than happy, live with your sexuality and allow the rest of us to live with ours don't blame us because you're different, we didn't make you the way you are.

I hope you can come to terms with what is obviously a big issue for you but is of no real consequence to the rest of us.
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Old 24-06-2008, 15:51   #36
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Its whatever turns you on,,,,I supose Heinz have got the right idea ,its made people talk about it,,,,good publicity and all that..
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Old 24-06-2008, 16:00   #37
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i found this advert offensive not because it was 2 gay men but because they had a child calling the man mummy

sory but that dosnt sit right with me and although no expert i dont think gay male couples who have children would expect a child to call a man mummy just as 2 lesbian women wouldnt expect a child to call a woman daddy

well thats what i think anyway
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Old 24-06-2008, 16:27   #38
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I can't see anything offensive about this advert and took it in the same way that Willow, Margaret, Mummiboo etc did. I can't help thinking that Polly is right though............ Maybe I'm just a cynical old git.
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Old 24-06-2008, 16:33   #39
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i found this advert offensive not because it was 2 gay men but because they had a child calling the man mummy

sory but that dosnt sit right with me and although no expert i dont think gay male couples who have children would expect a child to call a man mummy just as 2 lesbian women wouldnt expect a child to call a woman daddy

well thats what i think anyway

But they weren't calling a man Mummy. It was their Mummy but she was being depicted as a deli counter server because that was how they were all treating her. Like Gayle said, sometimes Mum's feel like that, or that they are a telephonist/secretary or a taxi driver/chaffeur. If it had been about taking kids to this that and the other and dropping hubby off somewhere the wife would probably have been played by a man in a peaked cap.

That was precisely why it didn't come across as two gay men - BECAUSE the kids called one of them Mum because in reality she wasn't a man she was their female Mum but just fulfilling her 'New York Deli Counter' role which is usually a man with one of those silly hats and a Bronx accent.

I think the subtelty of the image went over too many heads and that offence was consequently caused where none was ever imagined.
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Old 24-06-2008, 16:34   #40
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I'm amazed that anyone could find this advert offensive because, for a start, there is nothing Gay about it. I tend to agree that the whole withdrawal thing is part of a strategy but I think the little scene is very funny. It was no more Gay than Morecambe and Wise (and, before them, Laurel and Hardy) sharing a double bed.
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Old 24-06-2008, 16:35   #41
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Ah but people are now seeing gay undertones in that and in the relationship between Holmes and Watson, and Batman and Robin!
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Old 24-06-2008, 16:46   #42
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Willow, to them, I would say 'that to the pure all things are pure'
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Old 24-06-2008, 16:47   #43
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But they weren't calling a man Mummy. It was their Mummy but she was being depicted as a deli counter server because that was how they were all treating her. Like Gayle said, sometimes Mum's feel like that, or that they are a telephonist/secretary or a taxi driver/chaffeur. If it had been about taking kids to this that and the other and dropping hubby off somewhere the wife would probably have been played by a man in a peaked cap.

That was precisely why it didn't come across as two gay men - BECAUSE the kids called one of them Mum because in reality she wasn't a man she was their female Mum but just fulfilling her 'New York Deli Counter' role which is usually a man with one of those silly hats and a Bronx accent.

I think the subtelty of the image went over too many heads and that offence was consequently caused where none was ever imagined.

So basically the British public have been duped by a guy from New York. Suppose it's a change from Washington
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Old 24-06-2008, 16:55   #44
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You can carp on about society/individuals accepting homosexuality as normal, but the fact remains that we're not at that point. Whether homosexuality will ever been seen as 'the norm' is arguable, as the fact remains that it isn't natural and so is outside of the mainstream.
I'd have to argue the point that homosexuality isn't natural.

It might not be liked, and it's certainly a minority, but it has been a part of every society since time began, as well as in every species of other animals. Therefore, by it's very defintion, it's part of nature.

As for the advert, it's just a clever piece of marketing. The ad men knew there would be complaints from the narrow minded loonies, and all the extra publicity it's garnered is priceless.
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Old 24-06-2008, 17:15   #45
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Nail - head Rindy.
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