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25-06-2008, 07:13
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
Has anyone considered this?
Homosexuality is a natural way of controlling population whilst satisfying the basic desire for pleasurable emotional and physical satisfaction.
So by endowing some proportion of the world population with these inclinations, a global, natural way of controlling population has resulted.
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25-06-2008, 08:02
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
Apart from them lesbian women who want to be parents and go for amateur AI.
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25-06-2008, 08:21
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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Apart from them lesbian women who want to be parents and go for amateur AI.
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Hehehe... good point.
A lot depends on what you believe in Margaret. If you believe in a God (or such like), then the idea of a grand vision where such factors are created would be applicable. However, if you believe in a natural selection process, then any such abnormalities would be seen as a genetic 'throw back'.
A blind watchmaker? You bet!
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25-06-2008, 08:29
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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Hehehe... good point.
A lot depends on what you believe in Margaret. If you believe in a God (or such like), then the idea of a grand vision where such factors are created would be applicable. However, if you believe in a natural selection process, then any such abnormalities would be seen as a genetic 'throw back'.
A blind watchmaker? You bet!
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I am atheist and believe that our planet evolves its own way of controlling equilibrium and stability.
At present our over population and destruction of biodiversity will eventually be balanced by catostrophic natural disasters which will cause large scale human death and the balance will be restored.
Not a nice prospect I know.
I am known as the 'harbinger of doom'
but it will be necessary and will ensure the survival of the human race and all life on this planet.
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25-06-2008, 11:16
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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Hehehe.... someone just left anonymous karma calling me a 'dim-wit'. Should I start a thread about it?
I thought my argument was very eloquent and well sourced, which is more than can be said for an ignorant, unsigned comment. Where's JB when you need him? Oh yeah, he's on my ignore list.
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I notice that you haven't commented as to whether you think every act of union, which may include a man who has had a vasectomy, a post menepausal woman, or indeed any couple who use contraception, is also 'unnatural', because there is no chance of any offspring being produced.
As for mentioning your karma comment, it certainly wasn't me.
If I thought you were a dimwit I'd say so in a thread, as I much prefer to playing to a wider audience, than giving private shows for one.
If you don't believe me I could always give you a karma comment now, if you so wish.
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25-06-2008, 11:22
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
Why do we need to know every time somebody gets negative karma?? It is getting a bit boring now
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25-06-2008, 11:29
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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Why do we need to know every time somebody gets negative karma?? It is getting a bit boring now
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Lol, it is.
I could have a whole section to myself, if I felt the need to share with you every time I got any red blobs.
I also have a theory that people that make a big fuss about it, are more likely to be targeted, because the person doing it knows they'll get a reaction.
It seems to pain some people more than childbirth...which brings us nicely back on track.
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25-06-2008, 11:37
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
What about all the people who can't have children because they are infertile? Are they normal? Maybe we should test people before they marry and not allow it if they can't reproduce.
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25-06-2008, 11:40
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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I notice that you haven't commented as to whether you think every act of union, which may include a man who has had a vasectomy, a post menepausal woman, or indeed any couple who use contraception, is also 'unnatural', because there is no chance of any offspring being produced.
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I believe that humans have a natural instinct for any kind of sexual intercourse because genetically speaking it has for the most part of humans' existence provided reproduction, which is the core survival instinct. This means that the only 'natural' course of sexual intercourse is for reproduction, and we're just using our instincts for differing ends otherwise as we do have the ability to defeat our genes. Instincts are harder to overcome.
I refer you to my earlier post.
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Just because a person believes homosexuality is unnatural does not mean they lead lynchings or at all condemn homosexuality.
People are mistakenly confusing what is natural with what is 'good' and in turn unnatural acts with what is 'bad'.
Believing homosexuality is unnatural is a opinion on biology and by no means a signal of homophobia.
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The last sentence is for thomas.lee especially.
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25-06-2008, 11:55
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
i havent read though all the posts - so somebody may have already said it -
i dont see anything of homosexuality in the advert -its just an advert
but .......
if we are going to nit pick - then why does the person maiking the sandwiches have to be a man? do women not work in deli counters ?
but the advert wouldnt work then would it ? mmmm..how many of theose that complained i wonder had been sat on the sofa all day watchiing tv and had numb butts ??
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25-06-2008, 11:58
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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I believe that humans have a natural instinct for any kind of sexual intercourse because genetically speaking it has for the most part of humans' existence provided reproduction, which is the core survival instinct. This means that the only 'natural' course of sexual intercourse is for reproduction, and we're just using our instincts for differing ends otherwise as we do have the ability to defeat our genes. Instincts are harder to overcome.
I refer you to my earlier post.
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So you are saying that any heterosexual union, where there is no chance of conception, is also unnatural?
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25-06-2008, 12:08
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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So you are saying that any heterosexual union, where there is no chance of conception, is also unnatural?
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It is fueled by natural means by way of instinct, however consciously working towards an unnatural end.
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25-06-2008, 12:20
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
I guess I'm just lucky, in that my opinions were formed by receiving a secular education.
Personally I don't understand people who go train spotting, though I suppose how they spend their time is natural to them.
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25-06-2008, 12:22
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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I guess I'm just lucky, in that my opinions were formed by receiving a secular education.
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I suppose I'm all the more lucky, in ignoring my (albeit diluted and half-arsed) faith based secondary education and finding my own opinions
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25-06-2008, 12:24
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Re: Heinz to withdraw 'Gay Kiss' advert!
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I notice that you haven't commented as to whether you think every act of union, which may include a man who has had a vasectomy, a post menepausal woman, or indeed any couple who use contraception, is also 'unnatural', because there is no chance of any offspring being produced.
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I didn't think that I needed to comment, but if you insist. Strictly speaking, contraception of any kind (including vasectomies) is going against nature, but as advanced human beings we override nature everyday. I feel like I'm going round in circles here. Homosexuality isn't natural, it's an aberration.
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As for mentioning your karma comment, it certainly wasn't me.
If you don't believe me I could always give you a karma comment now, if you so wish.
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You can take this as a compliment, but I never thought that it was you. Of course if you're looking to throw some positive karma my way... well, I wouldn't refuse it.
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