Help me out ...

[Mog]

Does this not show to us all what is good about this country of ours. We Can debate these things and we can express all of our opinions. It doesn’t really matter if your right or wrong at least you can have your say. This is not allowed in the countries that we are referring to. Nevertheless we should bring our troops home now. We should get rid of all the illegal’s. We should get rid of all of the immigrants that do not speak or have not made any attempt to learn English. We should stop Immigrants coming into this country who then bring in their wife and ten kids. We should get rid of all the known members of the Taliban and anyone who abuses our troops and our police on the streets of this country of ours. Anyone who stands on the streets of this country preaching hate and death., Put them in a block with members of 2 and 3 Para. Lets see what they preach when they come out. What do you think would happen to you if you stood on the corner of a street in any Islam country and said anything derogatory about Mohamed. You would be burned or stoned to death with their governments approval . We should stop sending the £7 Billion pounds per year in aid to all countries. We should look after the needy and pensioners in this country first. If there is anything left in the pot, we can then let other needy countries have a few bob.
There is so much more to say.

[DaveinGermany]

Think you'll find quite a bit of resonance to your statement Mog.

[Eric]

I think it's a point worth making that even if there were no formal rules of engagement British troops, indeed forces of all the western allies, would still, in general, behave in a civilised manner ... well, as much as the demands of combat will allow. And this is a major difference between us and them. We are civilized, they are a bunch of ... I don't think the words I came up with would be acceptable on a family forum.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Mog

......You tell an insurgent that it is morally wrong and against the Geneva Convention to lay IED,s....

Is it against the Geneva Convention to lay anti personnel mines? I know there is a Mine ban treaty that the UK has signed but the US have not, nor has Afghanistan. Have a read here Ottawa Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Mog

.......We should get rid of all the known members of the Taliban and anyone who abuses our troops and our police on the streets of this country of ours......

In your master plan what would you do with the British people who abuse our troops and our police on the streets of this country of ours?

[accyman]

is treason just against the crown or your country as well because thats where i would start with people who abuse our troops

[Mog]

Originally Posted by Neil

In your master plan what would you do with the British people who abuse our troops and our police on the streets of this country of ours?

Neil, Unfortunately the majority of people who abuse out troops are not British as you and I know it. They maintain they are English Muslim or English whatever. Or they are just Muslim. I have no master plan its just the way I feel as I watch my country being taken away from me by the EU and another mans religion. I am English and I was born in England. I am not English Catholic or English Protestant. If I had a religion that is something I choose to believe in. therefore I am English and proud of it.
Here is what I would like to do with these people who abuse our troops and police. Arrest them and incarcerate them for the longest term that the law allows. If this term is deemed not long enough. Change the law. If the offence comes under the term Treason. Well you and I know that this is still a hanging offence.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Mog, why would you want to incarcerate t hese people at great cost to the taxpayer...that is...you and me??
No, load them(and their family too - wouldn't want them to be separated from the family life that they rely on in Human Rights arguments) onto a plane and take them to Afghanistan(or some other god forsaken uninhabited place).....disembark them in the loneliest place possible, then see how they get on.
Why should we have to pay for the upkeep of them and theirs

[Mog]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Mog, why would you want to incarcerate t hese people at great cost to the taxpayer...that is...you and me??
No, load them(and their family too - wouldn't want them to be separated from the family life that they rely on in Human Rights arguments) onto a plane and take them to Afghanistan(or some other god forsaken uninhabited place).....disembark them in the loneliest place possible, then see how they get on.
Why should we have to pay for the upkeep of them and theirs

Margaret, The only reason to put them in nick is to keep your eye on them. You know where they are and what they are doing. If you send them away they can always get back and blow us up. Thats how half of them got here in the first place claiming Asylum or getting in as Illeagle. Thousands of them get in this way. Doesnt seem to say much for our border patrols though does it.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I take your point, but in the nick they will just radicalise those already in there.......there really is only one solution. I'm not going to say what it is.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I take your point, but in the nick they will just radicalise those already in there.......there really is only one solution. I'm not going to say what it is.

Cos yer too polite? I will say it Top the Scum.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Thank you Cashy........you know me just too well

[Mog]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I take your point, but in the nick they will just radicalise those already in there.......there really is only one solution. I'm not going to say what it is.

I think that I would agree with you too Margaret.