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Retlaw · 27-07-2012, 20:05

Saw this in todays Lancs Tel.
That looks like it will attract a lot of flies (experts) as in ex spurt, a drip under pressure. Any body know who these cabinet councillors are.

DaveinGermany · 27-07-2012, 20:21

Surely it's a good thing that the lads & their families of a bygone era are remembered & honoured for their efforts & sacrifices. As long as they stick to facts & consult those who are knowledgeable in the subject it can only be a good thing that the next generations can carry the memories forward.

Retlaw · 27-07-2012, 20:52

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Surely it's a good thing that the lads & their families of a bygone era are remembered & honoured for their efforts & sacrifices. As long as they stick to facts & consult those who are knowledgeable in the subject it can only be a good thing that the next generations can carry the memories forward.

Can't argue with that, the only thing is how will they know the difference, there are some who have so much gob, they can fool the uninitiated into thinking they are the real experts.
Bill & I had to put up with them for years.

DaveinGermany · 27-07-2012, 21:12

Aye, valid point, but again it comes down to consultation. If they really want to make this work, they need to be asking questions now as to reliable sources.

gynn · 28-07-2012, 00:36

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

Any body know who these cabinet councillors are.

Yes it was published last month.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...net_Groups.pdf

See Appendix 3 Page 6.

2 Labour Cabinet Members (Miles and Wendy)
1 Conservative Group Nominee
1 Independents nominee
Mrs Turner, widow of Bill Turner
Representatives of British Legion
Representatives of Other Groups, at the discretion of the Chair

jaysay · 28-07-2012, 09:14

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Originally Posted by gynn

Yes it was published last month.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...net_Groups.pdf

See Appendix 3 Page 6.

2 Labour Cabinet Members (Miles and Wendy)
1 Conservative Group Nominee
1 Independents nominee
Mrs Turner, widow of Bill Turner
Representatives of British Legion
Representatives of Other Groups, at the discretion of the Chair

Seems pretty fair to me, but I would certainly have involved Walter on that list, his knowledge is second to none on the subject and shouldn't be ignored

Retlaw · 28-07-2012, 15:06

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Originally Posted by gynn

Yes it was published last month.

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...net_Groups.pdf

See Appendix 3 Page 6.

2 Labour Cabinet Members (Miles and Wendy)
1 Conservative Group Nominee
1 Independents nominee
Mrs Turner, widow of Bill Turner
Representatives of British Legion
Representatives of Other Groups, at the discretion of the Chair

I heard from Ruth Turner last week, that she had been invited to attend a meeting, but they forgot to tell her the time had changed, and she arrived 40 mins late, she said there were over dozen people in the room, she still doesn't know what their intentions are, by her reckoning no one else in the room had any real knowledge of the Pals. She only knew two of those present. What are the British Legion doing there any way, they are, after the cockup they made of Oswaldtwistle's memorial plaques, 3 spelling mistakes, 2 double entries. 4 errors (shouldn't be on) and two men who survived.

jaysay · 28-07-2012, 15:08

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

I heard from Ruth Turner last week, that she had been invited to attend a meeting, but they forgot to tell her the time had changed, and she arrived 40 mins late, she said there were over dozen people in the room, she still doesn't know what their intentions are, by her reckoning no one else in the room had any real knowledge of the Pals.
She only knew two of those present.

Seems in keeping Walter, what do you expect, from a bunch of know it alls

cashman · 28-07-2012, 15:10

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

I heard from Ruth Turner last week, that she had been invited to attend a meeting, but they forgot to tell her the time had changed, and she arrived 40 mins late, she said there were over dozen people in the room, she still doesn't know what their intentions are, by her reckoning no one else in the room had any real knowledge of the Pals.
She only knew two of those present.

Makes me think they didn't tell her deliberately, then again i'm a cynical get.

jaysay · 28-07-2012, 15:23

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Originally Posted by cashman

Makes me think they didn't tell her deliberately, then again i'm a cynical get.

Nout cynical about it cashy it par for the course

cashman · 28-07-2012, 15:25

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Nout cynical about it cashy it par for the course

That aint come as a great shock.

Retlaw · 28-07-2012, 15:30

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Originally Posted by cashman

Makes me think they didn't tell her deliberately, then again i'm a cynical get.

Well you may have a point, she was the only one late.
They didn't invite me either, and those two semi experts that Ruth saw there certainly know of me.
Bill & I had discussed this when we put on the 90th aniversary at the Haworth in 2006, I've been collecting Items for a display in 2016, I've also got a mate living in France who's prepared to act for me over there, plus I know people who put on displays at Thiepval Memorial, who I've provided pictures and info for in the past, I'm sure they would be pleased to help. Bill and I didn't need the council in 2006, so why do I need them now.

cashman · 28-07-2012, 15:37

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

Well you may have a point, she was the only one late.
They didn't invite me either, and those two semi experts that Ruth saw there certainly know of me.
Bill & I had discussed this when we put on the 90th aniversary at the Haworth in 2006, I've been collecting Items for a display in 2016, I've also got a mate living in France who's prepared to act for me over there, plus I know people who put on displays at Thiepval Memorial, who I've provided pictures and info for in the past, I'm sure they would be pleased to help. Bill and I didn't need the council in 2006, so why do I need them now.

The simple fact,they trailed n owd lass down fer nowt, Does "NOT" inspire confidence in the competence in these people, as far as i'm concerned.

gynn · 29-07-2012, 04:45

Looks like there are 2 questions for the Councillors on this site to answer or investigate.

1. Why was Mrs Turner shown so much disrespect over the timing of the meeting?

2. Why has Walter not been included, given that he is the acknowledged expert on the PALS?

jaysay · 29-07-2012, 08:24

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

Well you may have a point, she was the only one late.
They didn't invite me either, and those two semi experts that Ruth saw there certainly know of me.
Bill & I had discussed this when we put on the 90th aniversary at the Haworth in 2006, I've been collecting Items for a display in 2016, I've also got a mate living in France who's prepared to act for me over there, plus I know people who put on displays at Thiepval Memorial, who I've provided pictures and info for in the past, I'm sure they would be pleased to help. Bill and I didn't need the council in 2006, so why do I need them now.

Walter you know as well as I do, there's no show without Punch