Historical voting. - Page 2

shillelagh · 05-05-2007, 19:54

My mum and dad were brought up to be unionists aka tories over here. When they came over here thats how they voted. But in the late 80's early 90's mum changed her vote - and became a member of the labour party. Thing is though they didnt influence who i voted for because at the age of 14 i was already delivering leaflets for the labour party. My 16th birthday pressie was membership of the labour party for 5 years! My dad always said always vote cos otherwise its wasted and its up to you who you vote for not people who knock on your door, family or friends.

andrewb · 06-05-2007, 01:36

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Originally Posted by claytonender

I was brought up to believe that 'I am my brother's keeper' and that has always influenced my political choices - I have the responsibilty to consider the needs of people less fortunate than myself.

I wasn't brought up like that, but I am like that, thats why Id vote Conservative if there was an election tomorrow.

SPUGGIE J · 06-05-2007, 01:38

If Gordy Brown gets in your chance might be sooner than you think.

grannyclaret · 06-05-2007, 10:31

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Originally Posted by panther

i have voted the same as my parents, but it wasnt because they did, it was because its what i wanted to do, its just coincidence thats all

Me too..panther.....

grannyclaret · 06-05-2007, 10:36

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

I wasn't brought up like that, but I am like that, thats why Id vote Conservative if there was an election tomorrow.

As your only 18, you cant even imagine the heartbreak Maggie caused the working class,,If you were well off you thought she was the Bees Knees...It will be a cold day in Hell before i will fall for their bluff again..

andrewb · 06-05-2007, 10:56

Michael Foot not equal to Tony Blair
Margaret Thatcher not equal to David Cameron

If you listen to what the Conservatives are saying then you'd notice a huge difference to Thatcher.

The wives of miners, of the working class voted Conservative in HUGE numbers, that was one of the key reasons she got in to power. The wives wanted strikes to stop, blackouts to stop, they wanted their husbands to be in work bringing in a living. So its not just the wealthy that she was the Bees Knees for.

Oh and I wouldn't say she caused "The Working Class" heartbreak, yes it was incredibly bad for all the miners, but she tried to change the country so that people who wanted to work, who wanted to suceeed could do so without being members of the aristocracy. She attempted to create a meritocracy and it worked. Which is the complete opposite of what people are saying, the Conservative party is not just for rich people. Just look at what we have today, if it was not for her and Major, Labour would never have had such a sucessful economy.

I won't say everything Thatcher did was great, of course not. There were some awful consequences, but one way or another things like strikes and recession had to be tackled. What annoys me is when people won't vote for the party because she was the leader 20-30 years ago, and because people don't see past the unemployment and look at the big picture, and look where we are now thanks to her.

grannyclaret · 06-05-2007, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Thatcher.

The wives of miners, of the working class voted Conservative in HUGE numbers, that was one of the key reasons she got in to power. The wives wanted strikes to stop, blackouts to stop, they wanted their husbands to be in work bringing in a living. So its not just the wealthy that she was the Bees Knees for.

YES US POOR DELUDED HOUSEWIVES THOUGHT A WOMAN PRIME MINNISTER WOULD CHANGE THE WORLD..... HEY WHAT A LAUGH... HINDSIGHT IS A WONDERFUL THING.

cashman · 06-05-2007, 12:46

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Originally Posted by grannyclaret

YES US POOR DELUDED HOUSEWIVES THOUGHT A WOMAN PRIME MINNISTER WOULD CHANGE THE WORLD..... HEY WHAT A LAUGH... HINDSIGHT IS A WONDERFUL THING.

that was then granny,seems to me cyfr is DELUDED now.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-05-2007, 13:05

I vote for the person I think will do the best job......not easy really because some of the folk who put themselves up for election wouldn't find their bum if they used both hands!

katex · 06-05-2007, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I vote for the person I think will do the best job......not easy really because some of the folk who put themselves up for election wouldn't find their bum if they used both hands!

Yet another profound statement by our Margaret LOL

I still cannot understand what local elections have to do with National politics, except different ways of spending our money I suppose..

I change my vote according to the person who is standing .. even though don't always know them personally, some you do.

Certain member of my family would vote for a Labour candidate if it had been proved they had a shady past and, I suspect, Cyfr would vote for the Conservative candidate no matter what sort of credentials they had.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-05-2007, 14:47

I know we all have some sort of past, but I would find it difficult to vote for someone if it was proved they were dishonest.
I don't think the powers that be,....the ones who are responsible for making sure candidates are up to the task, should put us (the electorate) in that kind of position. They KNOW that some people would vote for a Jackass if it was running under a particular banner. Me......I'm one of those floating voters.

cashman · 06-05-2007, 15:01

. They KNOW that some people would vote for a Jackass if it was running under a particular banner. --------------------- obviously your refering to David Cameron, margaret.

Margaret Pilkington · 06-05-2007, 16:36

Cashie.....I am naming no names

SPUGGIE J · 06-05-2007, 18:42

Looks Like there is no family trait for one party going back many many many many moons. So in a way we are politically independent when it comes to the vote.

claytonender · 06-05-2007, 22:41

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Oh and I wouldn't say she caused "The Working Class" heartbreak, yes it was incredibly bad for all the miners, but she tried to change the country so that people who wanted to work, who wanted to suceeed could do so without being members of the aristocracy. She attempted to create a meritocracy and it worked. Which is the complete opposite of what people are saying, the Conservative party is not just for rich people. Just look at what we have today, if it was not for her and Major, Labour would never have had such a sucessful economy.

I won't say everything Thatcher did was great, of course not. There were some awful consequences, but one way or another things like strikes and recession had to be tackled. What annoys me is when people won't vote for the party because she was the leader 20-30 years ago, and because people don't see past the unemployment and look at the big picture, and look where we are now thanks to her.[/quote]

You have no idea what it was like for ordinary hard working people under Thatcher. Just try to envisage what is is like to be made redundant (it happened to me twice during the Thatcher/Major years). People still had families to feed, bills to pay and mortages to pay - all extremely difficult without an income. It is impossible to even begin to explain what it does to your self esteem. I hope that it is something that you never have to experience, because if you do your views might change dramatically. It is no consolation that you losing your job makes the company more - especailly if it is months before you can secure another job.