Hollie Steel : will all this be good for her? - Page 2

cashman · 26-04-2009, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Caz

For each one that becomes a victim, there are many that don't. Bonnie Langford, Linda Robson, Pauline quirke, the Osmonds, just off the top of my head. Doing it because they want to and not because of pushy parents is the main thing.

that line of thought sits very well with me.

Caz · 26-04-2009, 16:36

Who's to say those who became victims may not have done so anyway, regardless of what they did?

BERNADETTE · 26-04-2009, 16:37

I went to a show the other week put on by the dance school Hollie attends, she did a few solos in that. I can't see any harm as long as she wants to do it and it certainly didn't appear that she was being forced to perform last night. Good luck to her is all I say

Less · 26-04-2009, 16:42

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Originally Posted by JohnD

Dear oh Dear again

Look guys, I'm not trying to **** everyone off. I am from Accrington, and I have looked at this site a few times, but never contributed. However, having written an article on someone from Accrington, it seemed relevant, and it seemed interesting to see what everyone thought locally. Yep, sorry, I missed the perfectly reasonable request to put something on the introduction bit, so I will do that now.

Don't worry about it you just caught flashy on one of her rare, 'off days', they only happen on a day with a 'Y' in it!

katex · 26-04-2009, 17:05

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Originally Posted by Caz

Doing it because they want to and not because of pushy parents is the main thing.

Suppose all parents of child stars have been pushy along the line somewhere Caz, or they wouldn't have got there in the first place.

I enjoyed your article JohnD, and gave me food for thought on this.

She has been fast-tracked into the limelight very quickly and will be a trauma, good or bad. Just imagine the whole of the U.K. practically will recognise her out and about ... what a shock to her style of life, and will need plenty of guidance, support and protection for a while. Most child stars have been introduced slowly into child stardom, through stage schools, parents in the business etc. Yes, can be described as a type of child abuse if you look at this way.

Personally, I didn't like her very much ... found the whole thing freaky and surreal with her extraordinary pre-puberty singing voice. Will need plenty of professional help in the future to help her find the correct channels as she grows into a mature woman.

Would I have done this to my child if they had shown an outstanding talent? Not in this way, no, and not at 10 years of age.

Best of luck to her anyway.

flashy · 26-04-2009, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Less

Don't worry about it you just caught flashy on one of her rare, 'off days', they only happen on a day with a 'Y' in it!

(although it did make me laugh)

Neil · 26-04-2009, 17:36

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Originally Posted by cashman

Disagree,i find it odd in the context of n opening post on the forum.

being a very suspicious git. still thats what makes this place good craic.

Don't forget not everyone is used to forums and he may not have read about the introductory posts yet.

I bet no one reads the rules when they first join. I know I never read forum rules when I join then. Come to think of it I rarely read them at all

Margaret Pilkington · 26-04-2009, 17:51

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Originally Posted by katex

Suppose all parents of child stars have been pushy along the line somewhere Caz, or they wouldn't have got there in the first place.

I enjoyed your article JohnD, and gave me food for thought on this.

She has been fast-tracked into the limelight very quickly and will be a trauma, good or bad. Just imagine the whole of the U.K. practically will recognise her out and about ... what a shock to her style of life, and will need plenty of guidance, support and protection for a while. Most child stars have been introduced slowly into child stardom, through stage schools, parents in the business etc. Yes, can be described as a type of child abuse if you look at this way.

Personally, I didn't like her very much ... found the whole thing freaky and surreal with her extraordinary pre-puberty singing voice. Will need plenty of professional help in the future to help her find the correct channels as she grows into a mature woman.

Would I have done this to my child if they had shown an outstanding talent? Not in this way, no, and not at 10 years of age.

Best of luck to her anyway.

Katex, I'm with you on this one.
The question JohnD has posed is interesting.....and I think my answer would be NO.
Fame and media coverage of fame are unpredictable.....mainly because the public is unpredictable.
I think her parents will have to be very strong minded to ensure that she doesn't become affected by these happenings.

I didn't like what she did on the show....it made her appear incredibly precocious.

shillelagh · 26-04-2009, 18:32

well according to the sunday papers she's dropping the dancing bit ...

If she wants to do it then good on her .. but like everyone else says i hope it aint the pushy parent syndrome ...

i preferred the dance team diversity last night ...

Taggy · 26-04-2009, 19:00

I think theres too much emphasis placed on Fame these days, people just seem to crave fame for fames sake, rather than attaining it through something they are good at. Its a celebrity mad world, but providing this is something that the girl genuinely wants to do, and isnt being pushed into, she should be ok.

Best REgards - Taggy

SPUGGIE J · 26-04-2009, 19:23

Didnt see her as I aint a fan of these kind of shows. To the point that has been made about pushy parents then we also have to consider so called agents and those of the Simon Cowell disfunctions. He will tell them what they can or cant do whether the person likes it or not. These people enjoy what they do and push too far and they will be stiffled and no longer enjoy what they do.

steeljack · 26-04-2009, 19:58

seems to me these kids are being exploited worse than circus animals , (thought the attached blog was an interesting read ) think I read somewhere this past week that the young British diver is getting hassle from kids at his local school , most of it probably due to media exposure

West Ender · 26-04-2009, 20:14

I think the days of mothers like Shirley Temple's have gone, in this country at least, but 10 is a very young age to be catapulted into fame. I agree with Taggy there is far too much emphasis on becoming famous and there are too many youngsters who think they are much better than they are and dream only of "being a star", ordinary life being far too mundane for them. What will they feel like at age 30 when it still hasn't happened - and isn't going to?

I wouldn't think of any latter-day prodigies as a victim, since Lena Zavaroni, but living your adolescent years in the public gaze is very difficult as, I think, Charlotte Church would probably agree. If this little girl is going to carry on with a singing career I can only hope for a heightened sense of proportion amongst those around her and a good, solid chunk of down-to-earth in her parents. I have a feeling, though, that, even if she brings out a couple of albums, the sky won't be the limit.

junetta · 26-04-2009, 21:40

She was definitely on the front row when ears were given out but I enjoyed listening to her. If she has enough bottle to sing in front of so many people I reckon that she deserves a chance.

katex · 26-04-2009, 22:16

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Originally Posted by junetta

She was definitely on the front row when ears were given out

Yah see, that is just the sort of comment that this invites ... not criticizing you particularly Junetta .. but what do you think the media are going to get up to shortly, as in the 'Hairy Angel' label. Lots of labels roll off my tongue, but wouldn't post them. Plenty of adulation just now, how is she going to cope with the nasty remarks.

Best thing her parents can do now is to withdraw her and send her to a specialist school for correct training ... and don't tell me that her interpretation of vowel sounds didn't grate on you. She may make a quick buck within the next 12 months, but will need special coaching from there on, as oodles of talent being thrown out of these stage schools. Children who can dance, sing, act and know how to present themselves to the public as well as learning all the basics of the show business world, including how to handle shark agents.

She won't be 10 forever.