Hospital Discrimination.

[flashy]

the money may have something to do with the new helipad they have put there

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by thomas.lee

Also on the disability note, someone visiting the hospital could be equally as 'disabled' as such due to whatever they're visiting for, maybe illness, a broken leg? Anything. Yet because they don't have a blue badge, they have to pay - regardless of their circumstances to what they are visiting the hospital for.

Secondly, if a disabled person needs to visit the hospital frequently due to their disability, and they don't have someone to drive them there every time they're due, wouldnt they find some other form of transport? Taxi, free door2door minibus service? etc. Unless of course they are fit enough to drive, to which they should be fit enough to pay a small parking free

If a person is registered disabled then they are likely to be a regular visitor to hospital, not just as a one off for a broken leg etc.

Why would they want to find another mode of transport if they have their own car?

[thomas.lee]

Originally Posted by blazey

If you had a choice between paying £3 parking or being disabled and getting it for free, which would you choose?

I think it's actually quite selfish to whinge about £3 somebody's saving for being physically disabled.

Its not a case of that, and I think it was rather selfish of you to bare that question upon me. Of course I wouldn't like to be physically disabled, but the point I was making is that if you're going to charge one, you have to charge them all.

Its the key to a civilized community/country - equal rights - everyone is the same. Its what we teach the young, and what should be taught from day 1. If we treat people differently, which is clearly whats happening, we are being discriminative against others and treating people differently. Which I'm almost sure, is the one thing disabled people despise, being discriminated against.

[Bonnyboy]

Originally Posted by flashytart

the money may have something to do with the new helipad they have put there

How much are they chargin' to land and park up a helicopter and will the blue badge holding pilots be able to use it for free

[flashy]

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

How much are they chargin' to land and park up a helicopter and will the blue badge holding pilots be able to use it for free

hahaha daft get

[thomas.lee]

Originally Posted by Lilly

If a person is registered disabled then they are likely to be a regular visitor to hospital, not just as a one off for a broken leg etc.

Why would they want to find another mode of transport if they have their own car?

On a small note, I'm not registered disabled. I'm visiting the hospital for treatment on a fort-nightly, sometimes weekly basis for a period of 5 months, ending in May. So I think its wrong to persume only the disabled will be visiting the hospital on more than one occasion.

ALSO, what about a non-disabled person, visiting a sick person who is in the hospital long term? Still paying..

Perhaps what the answer would be, is to have the ticket machines in use for every visitor/patient, but have a card which can be given by a member of the NHS staff to allow a free exit from the car-park. (Ie: to regular visitors such as a disabled person visiting frequently)

[WillowTheWhisp]

Perhaps the question should be directed to the powers that be at the hospital.

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by thomas.lee

Perhaps what the answer would be, is to have the ticket machines in use for every visitor/patient, but have a card which can be given by a member of the NHS staff to allow a free exit from the car-park. (Ie: to regular visitors such as a disabled person visiting frequently)

One of my local city hospitals has a system where the clerk on the patient check-in desk has a ' time/date stamp' which validates your car-park ticket for free parking , that way all patients with genuine appointments recieving treatment (disabled and non-disabled) get free parking

[garinda]

Originally Posted by thomas.lee

Its the key to a civilized community/country - equal rights - everyone is the same.

Welcome to the real world.

Where did you get the impression that we are all the same?

High earners pay a greater percentage in tax. What drugs are prescribed to you depends on which health authority you come under. Low income families receive benefits such as free school meals.

There's a never ending list which could illustrate the fact that life just isn't fair.

[polly]

A few years ago my son had 4 serious operations in 2 years, for about 3 months afterwards he could not walk without a lot of pain and crutches. It is hell trying to keep a disabled teenage boy amused all day, every day. He could not go to most places, (cinemas, museums etc) because we could not get the car near enough for him to hobble inside.
To get him to his out patients appointments, I had to take him to the drop off point(old BRI), help him out, get him as fast as I could to wheelchair (before some jobs worth gave me a ticket) then abandon him well I took the car to a car park, (this often took 20 mins or so)
No chance of a blue badge as he was not permanantly disabled. We watched in envy as seemingly health people parked on the disabled spots and ran in!

[thomas.lee]

Originally Posted by garinda

Welcome to the real world.

Where did you get the impression that we are all the same?

High earners pay a greater percentage in tax. What drugs are prescribed to you depends on which health authority you come under. Low income families receive benefits such as free school meals.

There's a never ending list which could illustrate the fact that life just isn't fair.

That was the point I was bearing, I know 'we aren't all the same' and this is what needs changing.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by thomas.lee

That was the point I was bearing, I know 'we aren't all the same' and this is what needs changing.

Good luck doing that then, but change isn't come via accyweb, it will come by teling the hospital your bothered about it.

It is hardly discrimination for having to pay a parking fee though, you have to pay to park on the sainsburies car park here if your on the car park for more than half an hour. Is that fair, to make people rush doing their shopping when you wont be discriminated at Aldi a mile or two away?

There is no such thing as equality, because to have equality you'd probably have to sacrifice something much more valuable.

As Shakespeare said, striving to better, oft we mar whats well. Chances are all they'd do is make EVERYONE pay, not make it free for you, so all you'll have done is spoilt someone elses luxury. And yes that is selfish whether you think I'm wrong for thinking that or not. Its like me blowing out the candles on your birthday cake. Not right is it?

[panther]

do people get free parking if there kid is in intensive care and they have to vist everyday??
or they have to stay there all day because someone is having a operation but they are only there for the day??
when my son had his op, we had to pay for parking all day.

I think its stupid that we have to pay at all

[davo69]

when you have a hospitel a fair way from shops and town center then i would say all cars are parked there for a good reason no one just goes to hospital to park up.if they charged a small fee for your duration of your stay then that would be fair not a hourly charge,no one goes to casualty wanting to stay four or five hours ,make a fixed charge fee say £1.00 for your stay.this fee would go to mentaining the car parks

[lettie]

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

The main point here for me is that anyone should be charged at all for parking while attending a hospital. We are either ill, or attending friends/loved ones who are ill. Some smart arsed toerag decided that there is yet more cash to be made out of peoples’ misery. It’s a bloody racket in my book.

Of course it is but just think of the staff who have to pay for the pleasure of going to work. Staff are no longer being issued with permits to get onto the staff area because there isn't enough spaces. They therefore have to park on the visitors area and pay £3.50, 5 days a week, just to go to work.