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24-01-2008, 21:16
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
Having parents that are both now disabled I know how tight money is for them and how difficult it is so dont disagree with not having to pay for parking. My main complaint though is that there is not enough parent and child parking spaces and the normal bays just arent wide enough to get a young toddler out of either side (I have 17 month old twins), I really struggle!! And then just to annoy you further, i try to park in the middle of the bay to make life a little easier for me but when i come out you can guarantee that someone has parked a matter of inches from the side of me!!
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24-01-2008, 21:19
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
Bonnyboy, you may be right about the chunk of taxes that is allocated to the NHS....but would you prefer to have your parking free but no money to pay for medicines, treatments, and staff to take care of you when you are sick?......and as for the Road Tax......have a look at the state of the roads in this locality....do you think you get what you pay for in that respect?
If you don't like what you are getting for your money, then you know what to do with your X the next time it comes around to election time
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24-01-2008, 21:21
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
I'll agree with you on the point that disabled people may be less able to earn money, and have financial difficulties. BUT, what about other non-disabled patients who are also having financial difficulties? You don't have to be disabled to have difficulties in life, I mean ok, disabled people have a struggle in life, and it cant be a joy.. but we forget that everyone, whether disabled or not, could be in the same position financially. So the point I argue is that no-one should pay for the carpark, or if not - everyone should. (preferably no-one lol)
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24-01-2008, 21:21
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
Also, the hospital may argue, that by levying parking charges they are making the environment safer......CCTV cameras to watch over the site and make sure the activity taking place is safe and legal.
Parking charges are an unpleasant fact of life.....like so many other things the government want us to cough up for.
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24-01-2008, 21:24
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by thomas.lee
I'll agree with you on the point that disabled people may be less able to earn money, and have financial difficulties. BUT, what about other non-disabled patients who are also having financial difficulties? You don't have to be disabled to have difficulties in life, I mean ok, disabled people have a struggle in life, and it cant be a joy.. but we forget that everyone, whether disabled or not, could be in the same position financially. So the point I argue is that no-one should pay for the carpark, or if not - everyone should. (preferably no-one lol)
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I think that maybe if you really do have difficulty in paying the charges then someone at the reception could be spoken to and maybe you could get charges refunded....but if you are so strapped for cash....how do you run and adequately maintain a vehicle?......because that isn't cheap.
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24-01-2008, 21:24
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
Up there on the tops, there must be enough land to enable the car park to expand.
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24-01-2008, 21:25
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Also, the hospital may argue, that by levying parking charges they are making the environment safer......CCTV cameras to watch over the site and make sure the activity taking place is safe and legal.
Parking charges are an unpleasant fact of life.....like so many other things the government want us to cough up for.
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Correction. *The government want us 'non disabled people' to cough up for.
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24-01-2008, 21:27
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
I think that maybe if you really do have difficulty in paying the charges then someone at the reception could be spoken to and maybe you could get charges refunded....but if you are so strapped for cash....how do you run and adequately maintain a vehicle?......because that isn't cheap.
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yes one of the previledges of being disabled no disrespect ment
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24-01-2008, 21:27
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
Maybe, whoever owns the land is not prepared to sell it to the hospital.
I know that before I retired, and before the new part of the hospital was built it was known that there would be problems over not enough parking......and that is over 5 years ago.
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24-01-2008, 21:27
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
I think that maybe if you really do have difficulty in paying the charges then someone at the reception could be spoken to and maybe you could get charges refunded....but if you are so strapped for cash....how do you run and adequately maintain a vehicle?......because that isn't cheap.
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Well of course I can financially run a car, but I did visit the hospital and find myself with no money, or no card etc. So I was bummed basically.
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24-01-2008, 21:31
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Correction. *The government want us 'non disabled people' to cough up for.
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No correction was necessary to my post. If you have such a big gripe over the said charges, then you could take it up with the Hospital Authority, rather than bleat about it on here, where it has no effect.
I am sure the Chief Executive (whose name, by the way, is Jo Cubbon) would welcome your views and would give you a much fuller picture than anyone on here ever could.
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24-01-2008, 21:34
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by thomas.lee
Well of course I can financially run a car, but I did visit the hospital and find myself with no money, or no card etc. So I was bummed basically.
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So is it really wise to drive about in your car with no money......knowing that most places you go you are going to need change for parking, or petrol, or even the money for a phone call if you get stuck???
I drove to work every day.....took only the money for my food(or took sandwiches)...but I always had at least £5 in change somewhere in my vehicle.
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24-01-2008, 21:42
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
Generally, those who are disabled have to visit the hospital a lot more times than those who arent disabled and therefore would be paying a lot more than average joe for hospital parking in a year. I think its unfair to make them pay for parking. As for paying a few quid to park when I have to go to the hospital I dont complain, and being a single mum of 17 month twins I dont have a lot of money but dont grumble.
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24-01-2008, 21:44
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Generally, those who are disabled have to visit the hospital a lot more times than those who arent disabled and therefore would be paying a lot more than average joe for hospital parking in a year. I think its unfair to make them pay for parking. As for paying a few quid to park when I have to go to the hospital I dont complain, and being a single mum of 17 month twins I dont have a lot of money but dont grumble.
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i personly have been hospital 30 times in twelve months my mum who is disabled as been once in three years so not always the case
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24-01-2008, 21:44
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Bonnyboy, you may be right about the chunk of taxes that is allocated to the NHS....but would you prefer to have your parking free but no money to pay for medicines, treatments, and staff to take care of you when you are sick?......and as for the Road Tax......have a look at the state of the roads in this locality....do you think you get what you pay for in that respect?
If you don't like what you are getting for your money, then you know what to do with your X the next time it comes around to election time
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There are instances of poor roads everywhere, the amount of cash that the NHS gets should be, by far, enough to buy whichever medication is required, source whichever treatment is needed, supply the staff and run hospitals in a safe manner, car parks included. The NHS is blighted with mismanagement by people with no medical background. Other organisations have similar problems but seem to be able to weed this kind of thing out of the system. A for instance of what I mean might be why should a directorate manager ( with no medical background )working in Blackpool, just as an e.g. making decisions upon availability of beds, whilst at home here in Accy or deciding which wards should close or how many nurses have to be axed to meet targets.
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