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24-01-2008, 21:46
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
No correction was necessary to my post. If you have such a big gripe over the said charges, then you could take it up with the Hospital Authority, rather than bleat about it on here, where it has no effect.
I am sure the Chief Executive (whose name, by the way, is Jo Cubbon) would welcome your views and would give you a much fuller picture than anyone on here ever could.
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Margaret, Jo Cubbon left her post here in April. She is now Chief Executive of Taunton and Somerset NHS Trust so I wouldn't advise anyone to write to her, I don't suppose she cares much about parking at the Royal Blackburn these days.
I know what you meant though. Any beefs concerning parking or anything else would be best directed to the Chief Executive of East Lancashire NHS Trust (whoever that may be) rather than the members of Accyweb.
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24-01-2008, 21:47
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
True, but on the other hand my mum has been at hospital at least twice a week since new year. I have to make regular trips to the hospital also but a few quid here and there is hardly going to break the bank really
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24-01-2008, 22:20
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by thomas.lee
I'll agree with you on the point that disabled people may be less able to earn money, and have financial difficulties. BUT, what about other non-disabled patients who are also having financial difficulties? You don't have to be disabled to have difficulties in life, I mean ok, disabled people have a struggle in life, and it cant be a joy.. but we forget that everyone, whether disabled or not, could be in the same position financially. So the point I argue is that no-one should pay for the carpark, or if not - everyone should. (preferably no-one lol)
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The finacial benefits that disabled people are entitled to, are worked out to the last penny.
Perhaps you should lobby your M.P. to take away the free parking rights of blue badge holders, and have their money increased instead to pay parking fees like everyone else.
It would probably cost the government (who are of course funded by us) more money, but at least you won't feel hard done by.
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24-01-2008, 22:55
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by garinda
The finacial benefits that disabled people are entitled to, are worked out to the last penny.
Perhaps you should lobby your M.P. to take away the free parking rights of blue badge holders, and have their money increased instead to pay parking fees like everyone else.
It would probably cost the government (who are of course funded by us) more money, but at least you won't feel hard done by.
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Garinda .. think you are losing the plot here. Thomas was just pointing out that not all Blue Badge holders are hard up .. could be an average that they may be, in that case, shouldn't we means test all sick parkers at the Hospitals.
I held a disabled badge for a short while .. but would not have had a problem in affording the charge, and coughed up willingly.
Sure there are lots of wealthy people that hold a Blue Badge.
They are separate issues to benefits in my opinion.
Think they are also exempt from congestion charges also .. that is also a can of worms.
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24-01-2008, 22:59
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by garinda
That's news to me. A relative of mine when to visit her dad every day to Blackburn Royal, for eighteen months, and had to pay the full amount.
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I'm positive that this is the case, I know we send a letter out to patients who are coming in for planned operations who are going to be in for several days. I'll have a look tomorrow and post back
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24-01-2008, 23:05
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by katex
Garinda .. think you are losing the plot here. Thomas was just pointing out that not all Blue Badge holders are hard up .. could be an average that they may be, in that case, shouldn't we means test all sick parkers at the Hospitals.
I held a disabled badge for a short while .. but would not have had a problem in affording the charge, and coughed up willingly.
Sure there are lots of wealthy people that hold a Blue Badge.
They are separate issues to benefits in my opinion.
Think they are also exempt from congestion charges also .. that is also a can of worms.
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I'm not losing the plot.
Some mandarin in Whitehall works out exactly how much a disabled person is supposed to live on. I suppose free parking is considered a fringe benefit, in that not everyone is going to take advantage of it.
The alternative would be for the disabled to get paid more in offical benefits, and have to pay for parking like everyone else. This would in the long run cost the tax payer much more money.
Blue badge holders also get free car tax, and don't get fined if they park on single and double yellow lines for up to three hours, as long as they aren't causing an obstruction. A poor non-disabled driver would of course be fined for doing this.
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24-01-2008, 23:09
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by forceten
I'm positive that this is the case, I know we send a letter out to patients who are coming in for planned operations who are going to be in for several days. I'll have a look tomorrow and post back
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I know I visited on an almost daily basis from Oct 2005 ‘til March 2006, those costs were crippling enough, far less than an 18month stint that garinda’s relative endured. Maybe this is a new initiative that you speak of. Look forward to you posting your findings.
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24-01-2008, 23:12
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
People over 75 don't have to pay for a tv licence, and those lucky enough to be registered blind only have to pay half of the £135.50 fee.
Life's just a bowl of cherries for some lucky beggars.
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24-01-2008, 23:13
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
lol some have it all
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24-01-2008, 23:13
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by forceten
I'm positive that this is the case, I know we send a letter out to patients who are coming in for planned operations who are going to be in for several days. I'll have a look tomorrow and post back
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Thanks.
Although my relative is now happily out, I'm sure a lot of people could benefit.
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24-01-2008, 23:16
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by thomas.lee
What is? lol
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There should have been a quote in that post but I seem to have mislaid it.
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24-01-2008, 23:20
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by katex
Sure there are lots of wealthy people that hold a Blue Badge.
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Just as there are lots of people who get non-means tested child benefit money.
I heard Sarah, Duchess of York, could hardly afford to clothe her chauffeur, if it wasn't for the money she got for her two girls.
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25-01-2008, 00:16
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by emzy
Having parents that are both now disabled I know how tight money is for them and how difficult it is so dont disagree with not having to pay for parking.
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Have they had their benefits checked to see if they are getting everything they are entitled too!! I can assure you that a couple who are both disabled will be entitled to a fair amount of disability benefits and carers allowance too!
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25-01-2008, 08:13
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
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Originally Posted by Lilly
Margaret, Jo Cubbon left her post here in April. She is now Chief Executive of Taunton and Somerset NHS Trust so I wouldn't advise anyone to write to her, I don't suppose she cares much about parking at the Royal Blackburn these days.
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No she hasn't, she leaves this April, a replacement has not yet been found and confirmed.
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25-01-2008, 09:10
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Re: Hospital Discrimination.
Thankyou Lettie.......I knew that she was leaving, but felt sure she hadn't gone yet.
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