How Can This Be Right?

Less · 27-06-2013, 13:59

Just been listening to a sad tale,
A bloke in his 60's not far from retirement, been suspended from job seekers, the reason?
Hasn't logged into his account with the super duper job seekers online system.
The guy is hardly able to put pen to paper, so managing a keyboard less than no chance.
Leading up to his suspension, when they introduced this sparkling new system he was asked if he had a computer & an email address, because he answered no, they arranged a 10 day course, despite being unable to understand what was being discussed, he got a pass for the course, then was given a list of places he could go to log on free.
He tried, he failed, but was then suspended for not fulfilling his obligation to the agreement he'd signed about job searching.

Now come on, some folk will never, ever be able to use a computer, it isn't something they want or need, but to leave a confused guy with no money just because he doesn't and probably never will understand a new system.
How can this be right?

Before some smart arse asks no, I'm not talking about me.

accyman · 27-06-2013, 14:06

its all over the internet and has been on the tv about how staff at job centers are been given targets to get peoples money suspended so no matter how hard you have tried if you have been chisen your going to loose your money.The staff have to hit these targets or face loosing their jobs as well as they will be under performning their duties which is to deliberatly deny a claimant their money.They are even tricking the more aware into saying things that provide an excuse to impose sanctions as they are called.

its a disgrace and only possible under a tory government

i could post lots of links but it aint hard to find thsi information so if you think its bull take a look around the net and previous shows of panorama

accyman · 27-06-2013, 14:08

oh and dont forget retirement age is set to go up yet again if cameron gets his way so instead of clocking out of work you get taken out in a coffin

Retlaw · 27-06-2013, 14:12

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Originally Posted by Less

Just been listening to a sad tale,
A bloke in his 60's not far from retirement, been suspended from job seekers, the reason?
Hasn't logged into his account with the super duper job seekers online system.
The guy is hardly able to put pen to paper, so managing a keyboard less than no chance.
Leading up to his suspension, when they introduced this sparkling new system he was asked if he had a computer & an email address, because he answered no, they arranged a 10 day course, despite being unable to understand what was being discussed, he got a pass for the course, then was given a list of places he could go to log on free.
He tried, he failed, but was then suspended for not fulfilling his obligation to the agreement he'd signed about job searching.

Now come on, some folk will never, ever be able to use a computer, it isn't something they want or need, but to leave a confused guy with no money just because he doesn't and probably never will understand a new system.
How can this be right?

Before some smart arse asks no, I'm not talking about me.

I know one or two that no matter what you show them on a computer it never sinks in. Could you or one of your friends not help him.

cashman · 27-06-2013, 14:13

Won't be long though before some clown comes along to defend these barstewards.

accyman · 27-06-2013, 14:17

its one thing to prove you are looking fo rwork but a whole different thing when people are been targeted and tricked out of money they are entitled too

lets no forget here that a lot of people claiming benefit have paid NI and TAX its not their fault government has urined the money away and cant afford to pay what is rightfully due to people
dosnt stop them giving millions away to folk who habvnt paid naff all into the sysytem though

accyman · 27-06-2013, 14:19

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Originally Posted by cashman

Won't be long though before some clown comes along to defend these barstewards.

millipeed or band i think hes called has openly said that he wont reverse the bedroom tax so i doubt he would reverse owt else if elected the guttless git

no better than cameron and they wonder why folk say they are all the same

crooked

cashman · 27-06-2013, 14:22

Oh they will cut cash from people who have worked all lives n now really need it, but they have had to do this cos they aint cutting Foreign Aid.

accyman · 27-06-2013, 14:23

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Originally Posted by cashman

Oh they will cut cash from people who have worked all lives n now really need it, but they have had to do this cos they aint cutting Foreign Aid.

aint stopping more comin in either so where are all these jobs to accomodate the citizens of this country and all those that come here if theres no excuse for been unemployed ?

Less · 27-06-2013, 14:32

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Originally Posted by accyman

aint stopping more comin in either so where are all these jobs to accomodate the citizens of this country and all those that come here if theres no excuse for been unemployed ?

If only they would allow me to rent the spare room I have to pay extra for to 15 or 20 rich immigrants!

accyman · 27-06-2013, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Less

If only they would allow me to rent the spare room I have to pay extra for to 15 or 20 rich immigrants!

you can but you have to declare it so they can deduct what you get from your HB

10 years ago it wasnt enough jobs for the people of this country yet alone immigrants and now its not enough benefi for the people of this country yet alone immigrants

but been in the EU is making us better off its very important to remember that

Less · 27-06-2013, 14:36

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Originally Posted by accyman

you can but you have to declare it so they can deduct whqat you get from your HB

Exactly, they are killing free enterprise!

accyman · 27-06-2013, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Less

Exactly, they are killing free enterprise!

if you were to sell your arse down back alleys they wouldnt stop you but deduct what you earned from your benefit so thats not an option either mate

possibly tax you as well

Less · 27-06-2013, 14:42

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Originally Posted by accyman

if you were to sell your arse down back alleys they wouldnt stop you but deduct what you earned from your benefit so thats not an option either mate

possibly tax you as well

If I was to sell my arse down back alleys, I think I would have a lonely, one man business and a tax rebate at the end of the year!

Margaret Pilkington · 27-06-2013, 14:51

It isn't right, and this man should get in touch with Graham Jones and see what he has to say about it...and see if he can organise something so that this man can get his rightful benefits.

Government departments need to recognise that 1) not everyone has access to computers. 2) not everyone is computer literate.
3)some people do not want to be computer literate.4) some people do not trust the security of computers.

These are all valid reasons why there should be some other system in place for these people.