How do you leave?

[Eric]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Spot on Jen, I took the same decision as you when I was 16 a few years earlier than you did though, 46 years ago and have never wavered since, and I don't think we are the only ones on here either, I know at least another 3

There's a fine line between stubborness and loyalty ... and I don't think I would brag about not changing my mind in 46 years .... I just can't believe that, in those 46 years, you have not questioned your political commitment; I don't mean in fundamentals but in details of the day to day behaviour of the politicians, particularly the leaders, of the party you choose to support. I also direct this comment to those who have supported Labour, perhaps more so than those who are commited to the Conservative party. The Labour Party I read about is certainly not the Labour Party I remember, the one that my grandparents supported and voted for.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

She certainly has the right qualifications, All GOB and very little sense, and she's still young enough to know every thing.

Retlaw

I like the last bit I wonder what she means about the "real world that lies beyond Accrington"? Is she delving into physics and philosopy as well as law

[Margaret Pilkington]

Eric, she believes that Accrington is the 'unreal' world, and that Lancaster is the centre of the universe.......for now, at least, but in 7 months time she may have fallen out with Lancaster too.

It may not live up to her high expectations.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Eric, she believes that Accrington is the 'unreal' world, and that Lancaster is the centre of the universe.......for now, at least, but in 7 months time she may have fallen out with Lancaster too.

It may not live up to her high expectations.

If Accrington and area is out of step with the rest of the universe, I might just have to pay a visit sometime And Lancaster can't be the centre of the universe .... I am And how to leave? Quietly, with dignity, and without the handwringing melodrama

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Eric

There's a fine line between stubborness and loyalty ... and I don't think I would brag about not changing my mind in 46 years .... I just can't believe that, in those 46 years, you have not questioned your political commitment; I don't mean in fundamentals but in details of the day to day behaviour of the politicians, particularly the leaders, of the party you choose to support. I also direct this comment to those who have supported Labour, perhaps more so than those who are commited to the Conservative party. The Labour Party I read about is certainly not the Labour Party I remember, the one that my grandparents supported and voted for.

Perhaps Jaysay hasn't changed in forty odd years, but the party he supports certainly has.

Can't see many of Macmillan's cabinet throwing confetti at one of their own number's same sex union, nevermind hugging a hoodie, or I suppose the then equivalent, a duffle coat wearing Aldermaston marcher.

[garinda]

I long for a return to the days when we had people, of all parties, who sought election to public office because they cared about the greater good of society, and thought they could make a difference.

I'm sick to death of naff people who see politics as a career option, and are just out to climb the greasy political pole for their own advancement, or worse still those who are in it for the ego trip, and delight in seeing their ugly mug in the papers, and think we do too.

[steeljack]

I suppose if Blazey was serious about leaving she could "just get on her Bike "

[Eric]

Originally Posted by garinda

Perhaps Jaysay hasn't changed in forty odd years, but the party he supports certainly has.

Can't see many of Macmillan's cabinet throwing confetti at one of their own number's same sex union, nevermind hugging a hoodie, or I suppose the then equivalent, a duffle coat wearing Aldermaston marcher.

But no doubt they had their own forms of political expediency.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by steeljack

I suppose if Blazey was serious about leaving she could "just get on her Bike "

" .... and ride". Maybe she does have ambitions to be Queen

[nicola68]

Originally Posted by blazey

YOU are faceless statistics.

How many of you have actually been in my position? This is today, not your day. The youth of today don't go out and work in the local shops and consider that hard work, that's the easy option these days. I know students who hold down full time jobs alongside their studies, I'm just fortunate enough to have a flexible job where I get to do a lot of meaningful work with young people, many of which are from this town and those close by.

WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE????

You are not the only one who is full time University education you know!!

You seem to think because you are at university studying Law that you are in some way above the rest of the population of this town.

I am in full time university education at BSc level, I also have one of the hardest jobs in the world, I am a MUM. (1 preschool child and a 5 year old) At the same time I am committed to attending a clinic to help those who are suffering. I do not bleat on about it, I don't have to, I am happy with the knowledge that I am helping others. I do not have to tell the world how successful I am......

The youth of today with which you say you class yourself, do not actually know what hard work is!!
Have you ever worked in a factory environment for a 14hr shift stood on your feet all day? Or in a shop? where you have to stand all day and be PLEASANT to to people..... I really can not envisage you doing this with the attitiude that you are demonstrating on this forum...

You have no idea what hard work is... yes it is hard being a student and the work can be difficult, but actually working for a living is different... You work part time which you say yourself is flexible this obviously makes it easier for you to fit around your studies.

You mention that some of your fellow students work full time and are full time students... when and how do they manage to fit in the work that they have to do for uni, the reading, the assignments and do their personal tutors know that they are working full time? I know that on my course you CANNOT work full time, if you are found to be working more than 14hrs a week you are put on to the course as a part time student!!!

Finally, I am NOT a faceless statistic, you have absolutley no idea what political affliations I have and how active I am within them....

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by garinda

I long for a return to the days when we had people, of all parties, who sought election to public office because they cared about the greater good of society, and thought they could make a difference.

I'm sick to death of naff people who see politics as a career option, and are just out to climb the greasy political pole for their own advancement, or worse still those who are in it for the ego trip, and delight in seeing their ugly mug in the papers, and think we do too.

Could not agree with you more Mr Rindi, it is a rare occasion.

[cashman]

Nicola, hope ya bowed n touched yer forelock when ya said that. good lass.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

There's a fine line between stubborness and loyalty ... and I don't think I would brag about not changing my mind in 46 years .... I just can't believe that, in those 46 years, you have not questioned your political commitment; I don't mean in fundamentals but in details of the day to day behaviour of the politicians, particularly the leaders, of the party you choose to support. I also direct this comment to those who have supported Labour, perhaps more so than those who are commited to the Conservative party. The Labour Party I read about is certainly not the Labour Party I remember, the one that my grandparents supported and voted for.

Well of course I didn't always agree with every aspect of the Tory party in those 46 years, but unlike blazey stayed and made my feelings known from the inside. I still support the Tory party because the principles haven't changed that much over time,maybe moved more to the centre ground of politics, unlike the Labour Party who sold every principle they ever had to become electable, in the form of New Labour.

[nicola68]

NOT

It needed to be said....not that I think any notice will be taken.....

[yerself]

Why does the phrase 'He/she is educated beyond his/her intelligence' spring to mind?