How do you reckon this is going to affect AccyWeb?

WillowTheWhisp · 03-07-2008, 15:11

IDs of viewers of Youtube clips to be revealed to Viacom?

Here's the story.

Less · 03-07-2008, 15:23

Will it effect us? It is after all a U.S. Court ruling, not a dodgy EEC we know it's stupid but you will obey type ruling!

Bonnyboy · 03-07-2008, 15:23

Can’t see Google taking this lying down. Should be interesting to see what the official Google response is once the bods on the West Coast of the USA wake up.

I don’t think it will make a difference to AccyWeb. It's not as though Viacom are seeking paymet for viewing any of their content.

WillowTheWhisp · 03-07-2008, 15:30

Ah, but will it come to that Bonnyboy - that's what I'm wondering.

jaysay · 03-07-2008, 15:34

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Ah, but will it come to that Bonnyboy - that's what I'm wondering.

Could well do Willow we all know what our frends accross the pond are like

polly · 03-07-2008, 15:41

I didnt sleep much last night, could someone explain this thread to me in simple, non techie, words please?

WillowTheWhisp · 03-07-2008, 15:48

A court in the USA has ruled that Google must show them the database (recorded log) of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube. It contains the IP number (unique login ID) of the user who watched it, the time when the user watched it, the IP address (unique online identifier) of the computer used to watch the video and the identifier for the video.

So that's anyone and everyone who has ever watch anything and everything. They want to know who you are, where you are, what you watched and when.

polly · 03-07-2008, 15:59

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

A court in the USA has ruled that Google must show them the database (recorded log) of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube. It contains the IP number (unique login ID) of the user who watched it, the time when the user watched it, the IP address (unique online identifier) of the computer used to watch the video and the identifier for the video.

So that's anyone and everyone who has ever watch anything and everything. They want to know who you are, where you are, what you watched and when.

Thank you now I understand.
I guess it is for child protection cases?

Loz · 03-07-2008, 16:00

Will this affect people uploading videos to Acyweb etc...?
Not following it 100 percent i'm afraid!

Neil · 03-07-2008, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Less

Will it effect us? It is after all a U.S. Court ruling, not a dodgy EEC we know it's stupid but you will obey type ruling!

AccyWeb servers are in the US

steeljack · 03-07-2008, 17:22

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Originally Posted by polly

Thank you now I understand.
I guess it is for child protection cases?

its got nothing to do with child protection (typical brainwashing paranoia again , stop reading the Sun , not everyone has kiddie porn on their PC) its all about $$$$$$$ MONEY $$$$$$$

jambutty · 03-07-2008, 17:30

Just another nail in your “private life not so private anymore” coffin.

But the real issue is the posting of copyright material, like clips from movies or TV programmes.

“Viacom said it had identified about 160,000 unauthorised clips of its programmes on the website, which had been viewed more than 1.5 billion times.”

Why they want to know who viewed them is beyond me though, unless Viacom have an ulterior motive, like targeted advertising. If Viacom knows who viewed say a sci fi clip they would assume that the viewer was a sci fi fan and target them for buying/renting sci fi films books etc. Or they could be looking for payment from the viewers who view unauthorised clips of films, football etc.

I should have thought that viewing a clip or “trailer” of a film might encourage the viewer to buy the full package. But hey what do I know? I’m just an old geezer.

Neil · 03-07-2008, 17:38

When they find these unauthorised files they should request youtube to take them off

banjoman · 03-07-2008, 18:28

Interestingly if they use the IP address to prosecute, then that becomes "a personafiable data object" and may fall under the Data protection Act.

Its a toughie. Piracy is a crime, we all know that. However there is no facility for cheap, quick downloads ... The government is currently banging the heads of ISPs and Msuic industries to find a way. However I think that some of them are too greedy

For example..I`m on my way home in the car and a song I haven`t heard for ages comes on the radio. Later that night its still tinkling round my head and so I go and look on iTunes and go "HOW MUCH ?????". I give up on that and at the same time an advert comes on TV announcing I can rent or buy GroovyMovie 3.. But I want it now at the right price.. Its not on Sky Box Office , and I dont like buying DVDs as I`ll watch them only once.

However if the song from iTunes was 5p , and the film was a watch once for 99p I`d have spent some money that night. As it is the song is £2.99 and the film £15 to buy from a shop the next day so none of them get my money. I think its time for the entertainment industries to move with the times and work towards the market the customers want, rather than trying to hang on to their high profit but dwindling markets.

WillowTheWhisp · 03-07-2008, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Loz

Will this affect people uploading videos to Acyweb etc...?

That's what I was wondering, because:

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Originally Posted by Neil

AccyWeb servers are in the US