How Important is T'internet - Page 4

garinda · 18-06-2009, 00:32

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Originally Posted by cashman

can he actually read?

Mein Kampf, in the original text.

Eric · 18-06-2009, 00:41

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Originally Posted by glasgow guy

I wouldnt mind going back 20 years...
couple of things I would do differently...and its very true what you say..
but I reckon some peoples hand writing skills and I daresay grasp of the english language when writing has fallen due to the introduction of the internet purely on the basis that when sending an email you can spellcheck it so it will never be wrong - so really your not actually learning for yourself as it does it for you..and the time you spend online the more emails you may send ( over a set period of years for instance) the less you will write so whe it does come to doing some hand written work it may be substandard..
when was the last time anyone actually sat down and wrote a letter..even essays for school work can be typed up and printed off so the school kids and teachers wont really know how bad their handwriting/spelling may be..
probably not worded that correctly but I am sure you know what I am trying to say...as good as it is - it has its downfalls..

This raises some interesting and serious questions. If, as I believe, technology poses a threat to creativity, then a troubling irony has to be addressed. (Sorry, but after my fifth bottle of Innis and Gunn I'm feeling a tad pedantic). The foundation, or the source, of all technology is human creativity. So is it possible that there is a limit to technological advances? And is that limit the point at which humans cease to be creative? Another point to consider is: is technology making our civilization more durable or more fragile? Perhaps it's not all that good of an idea to put all our eggs in one technological basket. This might make a good SciFi novel

Eric · 18-06-2009, 00:47

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Originally Posted by garinda

Mein Kampf, in the original text.

The original is not only in bad taste, but also in bad German. Queen Mary once remarked that Hitler's German was "execrable", or something like that; and, she was right.

Maybe Hitler's German was on a par with Arnie's English

Mancie · 18-06-2009, 00:48

Arnie knows a few words in English..I'm sure "sit down on this..do it now" is the first words he will give to our child born by blood English gent David Cameron.

Eric · 18-06-2009, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Arnie knows a few words in English..I'm sure "sit down on this..do it now" is the first words he will give to our child born by blood English gent David Cameron.

Take a hint from Canada ... from time to time, tell the yanks to go take a flying you-know-what at a rolling donut. They'll luv ya for it.

Mancie · 18-06-2009, 00:59

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Originally Posted by Eric

Take a hint from Canada ... from time to time, tell the yanks to go take a flying you-know-what at a rolling donut. They'll luv ya for it.

Canadians are English...I'll give you tha call on that mate..but time change ..is this about the BBC?

blazey · 18-06-2009, 05:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay

There was life before life before the internet blazey and ordinary people like yourself still went to Uni, there was just different ways of doing things in those days

My point was that I don't have the same amount of money for books like some people, so I got most of my knowledge from reading stuff on the internet. I wouldn't be anywhere near as knowledgeable if I'd never had it and I always have used the library as soon as I found out one existed. Unfortunately I have always used Ossy library and it isn't the best resourced.

I'll make another thread about the research topic. It would possibly take this thread off on too wide a look at the internet!

garinda · 18-06-2009, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Eric

The original is not only in bad taste, but also in bad German. Queen Mary once remarked that Hitler's German was "execrable", or something like that; and, she was right.

Maybe Hitler's German was on a par with Arnie's English

Being German herself, she probably looked down on all Austrians, including Herr Hitler, Arnie's fellow compatriot.

garinda · 18-06-2009, 08:14

The Royal family should really all be forced to take the British citizen test, before being allowed to settle here permanently, and take advantage of our generous benefits system, and civil list.

jaysay · 18-06-2009, 08:21

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Originally Posted by cashman

can he actually read?

Don't know about you cashy, but ain't going to ask him

jaysay · 18-06-2009, 08:29

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Originally Posted by blazey

My point was that I don't have the same amount of money for books like some people, so I got most of my knowledge from reading stuff on the internet. I wouldn't be anywhere near as knowledgeable if I'd never had it and I always have used the library as soon as I found out one existed. Unfortunately I have always used Ossy library and it isn't the best resourced.

I'll make another thread about the research topic. It would possibly take this thread off on too wide a look at the internet!

Money ain't got anything to do with it, there was far less money flying about when I was your age blazey. Maybe the way children are taught has changed from our day, your studies for exam purposes were set on the text books recommended to cover the subject by exam boards, from what I hear and read that don't seem the case today. I certainly know one thing we weren't allowed things like calculators into exam rooms and any workings of a maths problem had to be detailed as part of the answer

blazey · 18-06-2009, 08:55

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Money ain't got anything to do with it, there was far less money flying about when I was your age blazey. Maybe the way children are taught has changed from our day, your studies for exam purposes were set on the text books recommended to cover the subject by exam boards, from what I hear and read that don't seem the case today. I certainly know one thing we weren't allowed things like calculators into exam rooms and any workings of a maths problem had to be detailed as part of the answer

When I was at school we had a calculator and non-calculator paper. We weren't taught from text books at primary school either, it was all on the board stuff, and mostly the same at high school apart from some subjects.

Obviously education changes over time though, that happens because knowledge changes over time.

I obviously know how I've learnt what I know, and I'm obviously aware of what other resources are available to me at home to learn from and I am positive that I wouldn't know nearly have as much as I know now without the internet. It is an actual fact and it ties into the other thread about the library really. That was my source of information from a young age. The internet (thankfully) replaced that so I can get more up to date information and I didn't have to walk miles to get it.

I wouldn't have bothered reading new information every day if I had had to walk all the way to accrington.

jaysay · 18-06-2009, 10:09

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Originally Posted by blazey

When I was at school we had a calculator and non-calculator paper. We weren't taught from text books at primary school either, it was all on the board stuff, and mostly the same at high school apart from some subjects.

Obviously education changes over time though, that happens because knowledge changes over time.

I obviously know how I've learnt what I know, and I'm obviously aware of what other resources are available to me at home to learn from and I am positive that I wouldn't know nearly have as much as I know now without the internet. It is an actual fact and it ties into the other thread about the library really. That was my source of information from a young age. The internet (thankfully) replaced that so I can get more up to date information and I didn't have to walk miles to get it.

I wouldn't have bothered reading new information every day if I had had to walk all the way to accrington.

Knowledge changes over time

knowledge is knowledge blazey, it doesn't change, you just have the ability to add to what you know. I'm 63 in a months time and I learn something new every day, especially on here, nobody knows everything, your always learning from the day you born until the day you die. People in my age group call it the University of Life, which is probably the best one your ever likely to learn from

Tealeaf · 18-06-2009, 10:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay

People in my age group call it the University of Life, which is probably the best one your ever likely to learn from

The best university there is, Jaysay, especially if you attend the Faculty of Street Science within the School of Hard Knocks and you're good enough to come away as a P.hD (Perpetual heavy Drinker).

shillelagh · 18-06-2009, 14:58

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

The best university there is, Jaysay, especially if you attend the Faculty of Street Science within the School of Hard Knocks and you're good enough to come away as a P.hD (Perpetual heavy Drinker).

Theres the terrible trio ... theyve got their P.hD in that ... and trying for accylass to join them as well ....