How Many Ways Do You Think Your Money Has Been Sneakily Taken From You?

mothernature · 08-10-2008, 14:28

Whilst giving the old brain a dusting down, I got to thinking of the ways money has been slyly taken from us via taxes and charges. Since having my children in the 80's I've noticed some of the things we pay now that have not helped me one iota (but I'm sure the rich have benefited from it) and I've lost a lot by having certain taxes/help reduced or abolished. Here are a few of them.

1. VAT on Elec/Gas/Water2. Charges for not using D/D to pay Utility Bills3. Current Accounts Monthly Fee4. No longer allowed milk tokens/school meals/uniforms unless on Income Support. Used to get it if you claimed FIS or earned under certain amount.5. Rent free weeks reduced to 2 instead of 4 if Council Tenant6. Water Rates included in with rent if Council Tenant7. Free prescriptions only available on income support/in school, over 60 or earning less than £12000 per year. Used to get it if you claimed FIS.8. Travel costs for hospital appointments paid if you are on Income support/DLA. Used to get it if you claimed FIS9. Dentists/Opticians if on Income Support, in school, over 60 or earn under £12000 per year. Used to get it if you claimed FIS10. Married mans tax allowance. Abolished11. Jobseekers now taxable earnings.12. Working Tax Credit (was FIS) now based on previous gross earnings in last tax year. Used to be based on net earnings from previous 7 weeks earnings.

Can you think of any other ways we have been robbed?

Neil · 08-10-2008, 14:46

What is FIS please?

emzy · 08-10-2008, 14:51

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Originally Posted by mothernature

Whilst giving the old brain a dusting down, I got to thinking of the ways money has been slyly taken from us via taxes and charges. Since having my children in the 80's I've noticed some of the things we pay now that have not helped me one iota (but I'm sure the rich have benefited from it) and I've lost a lot by having certain taxes/help reduced or abolished. Here are a few of them.

1. VAT on Elec/Gas/Water2. Charges for not using D/D to pay Utility Bills3. Current Accounts Monthly Fee4. No longer allowed milk tokens/school meals/uniforms unless on Income Support. Used to get it if you claimed FIS or earned under certain amount.5. Rent free weeks reduced to 2 instead of 4 if Council Tenant6. Water Rates included in with rent if Council Tenant7. Free prescriptions only available on income support/in school, over 60 or earning less than £12000 per year. Used to get it if you claimed FIS.8. Travel costs for hospital appointments paid if you are on Income support/DLA. Used to get it if you claimed FIS9. Dentists/Opticians if on Income Support, in school, over 60 or earn under £12000 per year. Used to get it if you claimed FIS10. Married mans tax allowance. Abolished11. Jobseekers now taxable earnings.12. Working Tax Credit (was FIS) now based on previous gross earnings in last tax year. Used to be based on net earnings from previous 7 weeks earnings.

Can you think of any other ways we have been robbed?

Says above

Less · 08-10-2008, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Neil

What is FIS please?

I think it's Family income supplement, but I can't remember nor from a quick google can I see it being something existing for some time, hasn't it been replaced by tax credits, perhaps someone should copy and paste something more up to date?

Less · 08-10-2008, 15:01

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Originally Posted by emzy

Says above

Well done emzy you read through to the end.

jaysay · 08-10-2008, 16:20

More important than money they've taken away our rights to govern ourselves by selling us down the road to Europe

Stanleymad · 08-10-2008, 16:24

Thats something i dont get is why gross earnings is used for WFT when that figure is not what u take home with ya after deductions

Benipete · 08-10-2008, 17:23

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Originally Posted by mothernature

Whilst giving the old brain a dusting down, I got to thinking of the ways money has been slyly taken from us via taxes and charges. Since having my children in the 80's I've noticed some of the things we pay now that have not helped me one iota (but I'm sure the rich have benefited from it) and I've lost a lot by having certain taxes/help reduced or abolished. Here are a few of them.

1. VAT on Elec/Gas/Water2. Charges for not using D/D to pay Utility Bills3. Current Accounts Monthly Fee4. No longer allowed milk tokens/school meals/uniforms unless on Income Support. Used to get it if you claimed FIS or earned under certain amount.5. Rent free weeks reduced to 2 instead of 4 if Council Tenant6. Water Rates included in with rent if Council Tenant7. Free prescriptions only available on income support/in school, over 60 or earning less than £12000 per year. Used to get it if you claimed FIS.8. Travel costs for hospital appointments paid if you are on Income support/DLA. Used to get it if you claimed FIS9. Dentists/Opticians if on Income Support, in school, over 60 or earn under £12000 per year. Used to get it if you claimed FIS10. Married mans tax allowance. Abolished11. Jobseekers now taxable earnings.12. Working Tax Credit (was FIS) now based on previous gross earnings in last tax year. Used to be based on net earnings from previous 7 weeks earnings.

Can you think of any other ways we have been robbed?

Have you nothing better to do,be like the rest of sensible people.
Weigh up the Pros and Con and adjust the fiddle accordingly.

Mancie · 08-10-2008, 17:50

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Originally Posted by jaysay

More important than money they've taken away our rights to govern ourselves by selling us down the road to Europe

Quite true jaysay...the Tories did sell us up the river by signing up to the Maastricht Treaty back in 1992 !

mothernature · 08-10-2008, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Neil

What is FIS please?

It was Family Income Supplement, later changed to Family Credit. This was then replaced by Working Tax Credits.

mothernature · 08-10-2008, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Have you nothing better to do,be like the rest of sensible people.
Weigh up the Pros and Con and adjust the fiddle accordingly.

No. Being on my own 5 days of the week leaves me a lot of time and I sleep about 4 hours a day on average. Besides my brain just will not switch off. I don't believe I'm what you would call sensible either

Benipete · 08-10-2008, 18:12

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Originally Posted by mothernature

No. Being on my own 5 days of the week leaves me a lot of time and I sleep about 4 hours a day on average. Besides my brain just will not switch off. I don't believe I'm what you would call sensible either

Your not wired up right,but you seem to be on track with the last bit.

mothernature · 08-10-2008, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Benipete

Your not wired up right,but you seem to be on track with the last bit.

You might be right there

polly · 08-10-2008, 19:09

Blackburn Council have found a whole new way of robbing me and every otherCouncil Tax payer of money: they have introduced free off street parkning on some streets and are going to expand this scheem on Saturdays in the run up to Xmas. this means that non council tax payers from outside the borough are going to be able to park for free and of course the estimated 50,000 pounds that the council will l9oose in revenue will have to be covered from elsewhere,, Guess who will foot the bill? Yes, those who live inside the borough and do not own cars and those who do own cars and do not shop in Blackbure (that is me)
Remember Robin Hood? He used to rob the rich to pay the poor, BwDC rob the poor and pay the rich!

Benipete · 08-10-2008, 19:09

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Originally Posted by mothernature

You might be right there

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