How Much Power Has Murdoch Got?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

These days there is very little difference between any of the 3 major parties.

Perhaps it's because the movers and shakers in all three mainstream political parties are public school toffs.

Who chose politics as a career, after attending their elitist universities, and haven't the foggiest idea what a hard day's graft is really like.

Therefore all the lot of them are so far removed from the reality of the majority of peoples' lives that they might as well be on the Moon, rather than the rarefied atmosphere of the Palace of Westminster.

Still, if people are happy not to see this, we should perhaps afford them a little pity.

Bless.

[Margaret Pilkington]

There is nothing at all wrong with my memory. I remember all those times...and much harder times before that......when there was not much in the way of welfare...or Public Assistance as it was called then.

I grew up just after the war and in those days if you didn't work(for whatever reason) then you didn't eat. My mother had three jobs(my father suffered blast injuries on D-day+6 and was unable to work) brought seven of us up in dire poverty, I do not recall us getting anything off the state........so please don't lecture me on poverty and what the Labour party did for the poor.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by garinda

Perhaps it's because the movers and shakers in all three mainstream political parties are public school toffs.

Who chose politics as a career, after attending their elitist universities, and haven't the foggiest idea what a hard day's graft is really like.

Therefore all the lot of them are so far removed from the reality of the majority of peoples' lives that they might as well be on the Moon, rather than the rarefied atmosphere of the Palace of Westminster.

Still, if people are happy not to see this, we should perhaps afford them a little pity.

Bless.

How very true.
How many sitting MP's do you know of (in any party) who have worked hard in a job in manufacturing, and that required manual labour?
I would hazard a guess to say that there are not many(if any at all).

That is the crux of the problem......they know nothing of the struggles of the majority of people in this country.

[cmonstanley]

david cameron oppossed the nww when it was going through

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

How very true.
How many sitting MP's do you know of (in any party) who have worked hard in a job in manufacturing, and that required manual labour?
I would hazard a guess to say that there are not many(if any at all).

That is the crux of the problem......they know nothing of the struggles of the majority of people in this country.

Purely coincidental, as I was noseying around earlier today to see what the Fylde's Miss Jolly Hockey-Sticks was up to now, when I came across the Lacashire Telegraph's General Election result report.

In the comments section a workmate from the printers where Graham Jones worked, said he went into work there, the week prior to the election.

So, few and far between as they might be, it looks like we're lucky enough to have a M.P. who understands the meaning of a hard day's graft.

Dream result for Hyndburn Labour candidate (From Lancashire Telegraph)

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

david cameron oppossed the nww when it was going through

Cameron also supported Murdoch, until the Milly Dowler news came out, even then he was the LAST of the big 3 to oppose him,so i can only assume that knowing earlier celebrities phones had been hacked, that was ok, even though its the "Same" offence, so i fer one very much doubt his sincerity in all this.

[Boeing Guy]

Cmonstanley,

.david cameron oppossed the nww when it was going through

That's as maybe, but David Cameron did not become a MP until 2001 when he was elected MP in Witney.
He did stand in 1997 in Stafford, but lost.
The minimum wage act was one of the first things the new Labour Government did, the act was passes in 1998.
So David Cameron could not have said anything in parliament about it at that time. The only confirmation of your quote, is through the Labour Party website.
You should check your sources.

That said the Minimum Wage has benefited many people.
So for once, I kind of agree with you

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

How very true.
How many sitting MP's do you know of (in any party) who have worked hard in a job in manufacturing, and that required manual labour?
I would hazard a guess to say that there are not many(if any at all).

That is the crux of the problem......they know nothing of the struggles of the majority of people in this country.

I think you make a very good point Margaret.

I handed my notice in at Daltons Printers the week after the general election and have been back on a few occasions. My desk, room, commuter, chair and all the other machiniery I operated are all still there.

I think there are a minority of MP's who have emerged from a low wage working environment.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by g jones

I think you make a very good point Margaret.

I handed my notice in at Daltons Printers the week after the general election and have been back on a few occasions. My desk, room, commuter, chair and all the other machiniery I operated are all still there.

I think there are a minority of MP's who have emerged from a low wage working environment.

We've been very lucky in Hyndburn the last three MPs were born and bred in the Constituency and for the most part worked there too, which to my way of think is how it should be, not placed people from a central office list, which applies to all parties

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

We've been very lucky in Hyndburn the last three MPs were born and bred in the Constituency and for the most part worked there too, which to my way of think is how it should be, not placed people from a central office list, which applies to all parties

Ms. Lytham St. Annes, the lovely Karen, never really stood a chance, because of you lot, did she?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Ms. Lytham St. Annes, the lovely Karen, never really stood a chance, because of you lot, did she?

Well she certainly didn't get my vote on principle, the first time since I became eligible to vote in 1967 that I didn't vote Tory, she never stood a chance anyway, Labour found that out when they made the mistake of picking Kever Coombs as their candidate in 1987 and he failed miserably

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well she certainly didn't get my vote on principle, the first time since I became eligible to vote in 1967 that I didn't vote Tory, she never stood a chance anyway, Labour found that out when they made the mistake of picking Kever Coombs as their candidate in 1987 and he failed miserably

Arthur Davidson was a non-local, being a Scouser, and was our M.P. for seventeen years.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Arthur Davidson was a non-local, being a Scouser, and was our M.P. for seventeen years.

Ya but once JKH beat him in 1983 that broke the mould, I would think if more constituencies in the country had an home grown MP it would be very difficult for an outsider to come in a retake the seat, especially in seats like Hyndburn, I may not agree with Graham Jones or what he stands for nor did I do Greg Pope, but I think I'd rather have people, irrespective of party, fighting my corner in Westminster who actually know and live in the area they represent, rather than somebody thrust on the people by the political grandees of any party

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya but once JKH beat him in 1983 that broke the mould, I would think if more constituencies in the country had an home grown MP it would be very difficult for an outsider to come in a retake the seat, especially in seats like Hyndburn, I may not agree with Graham Jones or what he stands for nor did I do Greg Pope, but I think I'd rather have people, irrespective of party, fighting my corner in Westminster who actually know and live in the area they represent, rather than somebody thrust on the people by the political grandees of any party

Teddy, Eggwina, Maggie, and Winnie, all seemed quite popular in their various constitencies.

All of who had no connection with any of those places.

Perhaps we should bring rules in, stating a M.P. has to be born in their costituency.

So we won't see the likes of Heath, Curry, Thatcher, and Churchill again.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

There was more than one, supping at the Devil's table.

Rebekah Brooks, née Wade, and Margaret Thatcher.

Conservative party conference, Blackpool 1975.