How Often does this happen? - Page 3

WillowTheWhisp · 22-12-2006, 00:13

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Originally Posted by cherokee

if they made someone/everyone lift thier viel and behind it they discover a man then that should be enough to raise suspision wthout needing wanted lists.....

Absolutely, any man using a full face veil to hide behind must be up to no good.

garinda · 22-12-2006, 00:21

As far as I understand this hasn't been proved to be the case, it may have happened, it may not.

What is shocking is the fact that could have happened.

Passport photographs are now being rejected if you smile, yet you can swan through passport, immigration and all security points wearing a veil.

Something is badly wrong.

It's almost laughable if it wasn't so serious a threat to national security.

cherokee · 22-12-2006, 00:39

hasnt that always been the case (no smiling)???

Im sorry but in this country it has become one rule for us and another for those who persist on INTIMIDATING our government..

Most officials are too affraid to ask simple Qs like "please would you lift your veil" in fear of condemnation...

garinda · 22-12-2006, 00:50

According to this report it would be unlikely to have happened because women 'can' be asked to lift their veils!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6195581.stm

What utter rubbish. Everyone should face the same security checks, regardless of religion. My friend had a bottle of gin confiscated this week, after asking if it was okay to purchase it after an interconnecting flight at Heathrow. The reason given being 'security'

I think I see a new career opening up. After buying a fetching black outfit and matching veil, I shall then be strapping guns and heroin about my person, and away I go unaccosted.

cherokee · 22-12-2006, 01:01

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Originally Posted by garinda

As far as I understand this hasn't been proved to be the case, it may have happened, it may not.

What is shocking is the fact that could have happened.

Passport photographs are now being rejected if you smile, yet you can swan through passport, immigration and all security points wearing a veil.

Something is badly wrong.

It's almost laughable if it wasn't so serious a threat to national security.

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Originally Posted by cherokee

hasnt that always been the case (no smiling)???

Im sorry but in this country it has become one rule for us and another for those who persist on INTIMIDATING our government..

Most officials are too affraid to ask simple Qs like "please would you lift your veil" in fear of condemnation...

AS I SAID .....INTIMIDATING........

SOD THE SENSITIVE ISSUES THIS IS OUR COUNTRY

AND IT NEEDS PROTECTING....

Doug · 22-12-2006, 01:04

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Originally Posted by cherokee

AS I SAID .....INTIMIDATING........

SOD THE SENSITIVE ISSUES THIS IS OUR COUNTRY

AND IT NEEDS PROTECTING....

I can't be arsed to read the thread but I agree with you, there's far too much to lose.......We've been to bloody soft.

garinda · 22-12-2006, 01:04

Stop shouting at me.

You're intimidating me.

cherokee · 22-12-2006, 01:06

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Originally Posted by garinda

Stop shouting at me.

You're intimidating me.

LMAO!!! ooops sorry rinds... dindnt mean to shout..

Doug · 22-12-2006, 01:08

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Originally Posted by garinda

Stop shouting at me.

You're intimidating me.

Bloody hell Mandy, What a ****ing inprovement.....

jedimaster · 22-12-2006, 05:00

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Wynonie Harris · 22-12-2006, 09:54

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

What i say is have more women customs officers and so if someone does go through wearing a veil then the women customs officers would then ask them to step into a separate room and ask them to unveil themselves so they can then check their passports. If they refuse even then to unveil themselves then they dont fly or sail or whatever. That way then they are checked. By the way have cctv in the room and a male customs officer standing outside and instead of letting them go back out the way they came in there would be another door leading onto the concourse so they cant then go back into the normal side and so swap identities with a bloke. In otherwords what they used to do when i was flying to ireland. Theyve already got the stuff they need to do it with - just may have to move it from a different terminal.

By the wynonie - i will admit it - i am a branch secretary of the Labour Party and i havent been quiet have i?

No, you haven't been quiet, Shillelagh, and respect to you for that. However, why should customs have to go through all the rigmarole you describe above? Anyone wearing a veil should have to remove it at any security checkpoint as a matter of course, whether there's a male present or not. If they don't like it, they don't fly, it's as simple as that. And if you think that sounds draconian, it's nothing compared to a country like Holland where it is against the law to wear a face covering in a public place.

However, the other point which this whole affair has highlighted is the fact that asylum seekers can commit any crime including murder, yet cannot be deported at the end of their sentence, if their country of origin is deemed too "dangerous". Now, I'm sure that the vast majority of people in this country will, like me, be thinking along the lines of "they should have thought of that before they committed the crime". But not this government. According to John Denham, the government lacky I was referring to, it enables us to be a member "of the club of civilised countries" and "hold our heads up". So there you are, you can be assaulted, shot or murdered by someone who has sought out this country as a place of refuge and has then abused our hospitality in the most appalling way. But you can hold your head up, secure in the knowledge that this hospitality will go on being extended indefinitely.

Shillelagh, if this post comes across as being racist, I apologise. In 20 years of marriage to a non-white person, I have seen firsthand the effects of racism and I despise it. However, I actually think that situations like the above are playing right into the hands of the racists and that's not good for any of us of whatever race, creed or colour!

cashman · 22-12-2006, 11:58

well said wynonie.

armani · 22-12-2006, 12:47

it wont be the first time its happened bet it happens all the time and they get away with it like they get away with everything

WillowTheWhisp · 22-12-2006, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

I actually think that situations like the above are playing right into the hands of the racists and that's not good for any of us of whatever race, creed or colour!

I totally agree with you Wynonie. Along with other PC nonsense these sort of things just turn people against each other.

When someone commits a crime their plea of "my human rights" should go out the window.

jedimaster · 23-12-2006, 14:50

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

"they should have thought of that before they committed the crime".

never has a truer word been spoken

if they abuse the laws of this land then they should be sent back from whence they came regardless

the time for pussyfooting around has long gone
the government needs to shape up and harden up they are too quick to punish us brits for the slightest little thing but if you're from an ethnic minority background feel free to do as you wish

i say that us british are now the ethnic minority in our own country

I am British and this is Britain - I want my country back!