How short is the memory?

Royboy39 · 06-09-2009, 22:43

70 civilians killed on raid of stolen tankers.
The Taliban stole them and the Germans are outraged that they were blown to hell.

How many children were slaughtered by the Germans for nothing?
How many men, women and children suffered at the hands of the Germans?
What should the Americans have done, send them a message saying 'Come out with your hands up?'
I doubt that the people receiving stolen goods were aware of the danger but that is down to the thieves not the defenders.

cashman · 06-09-2009, 22:49

what do ya expect from the krauts? aint forgiven US fer 66.

Royboy39 · 06-09-2009, 23:04

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what do ya expect from the krauts? aint forgiven US fer 66.

Read this Cashy:

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Merkel urges Afghan raid inquiry

How can someone in my lifetime convince me that the death of my Dad was down to the Japs and the death of his brother to the Germans never happened.
I am no lover of either of these peoples and perhaps never will be.
The Japanese hopefully have been held in check but the Germans are as arrogant as always. We are still committed to the EU with Germany.
I hope the outcome is favourable when Brown stops his creeping but I doubt it.

cashman · 06-09-2009, 23:22

cheeky bitch, if the krauts n some of the other so- called NATO allies were pulling their weight in afghanistan, perhaps we would be a damn site nearer handing over.

steeljack · 07-09-2009, 00:20

Come on guys , for the past fifty odd years the Brits and the US have been having temper tantrums anytime there was a mention of the German Nato forces having decent weapons going into action , (dreams of the Wehrmacht (sp?) marching down Pall Mall to Admiralty Arch ). So now they are being allowed a limited role in Afghanistan (Because the Brits and Yanks need help) and they screw up , the German forces are on a leaning curve , not being allowed to fight in combat since 45, mistakes happen , As per usual the politicians jump in (this time Angela Merkal) and make asses of themselves .

cashman · 07-09-2009, 00:25

thats true steeljack, still don't detract from the fact shes a silly bitch though.

steeljack · 07-09-2009, 00:29

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thats true steeljack, still don't detract from the fact shes a silly bitch though.

Definatly agree , they are her troops she should be supporting them right or wrong (in public at least) , also to be remembered the majority of German forces are still young conscripts (they still have National Service).

jaysay · 07-09-2009, 09:05

See nobody mentioned the French

accyman · 07-09-2009, 19:24

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See nobody mentioned the French

when we need advice on surrendering then naturally they will play their part .

happy now?

jaysay · 08-09-2009, 03:07

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when we need advice on surrendering then naturally they will play their part .

happy now?

And they learned it from the Italians

Mancie · 08-09-2009, 03:22

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when we need advice on surrendering then naturally they will play their part .

happy now?

got to pull you up there Accyman..the Frence Ressistance held very brave men and women that gave their lives knowing they would die when found by the Germans.. along with the Dutch.. these people were brave and deserve respect.

jaysay · 08-09-2009, 08:49

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got to pull you up there Accyman..the Frence Ressistance held very brave men and women that gave their lives knowing they would die when found by the Germans.. along with the Dutch.. these people were brave and deserve respect.

I don't think anybody doubts the great contribution the resistance made during the war, but if the hadn't been hamstrung by he Vichy government of France in that period maybe there efforts would ave been more effective

Less · 08-09-2009, 09:27

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And they learned it from the Italians

The Swiss had the best idea, stay neutral and make money out of both sides.

Northern Monkey · 08-09-2009, 13:21

You can't blame the German people now for something that happened 70 years ago. That is just ludicrous. Blowing up the oil tanker was a bit extreme in these conditions. It's ridiculous to compare it to the Holocaust though - something that the Germans are very embarrassed about to this day.

cashman · 08-09-2009, 13:56

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You can't blame the German people now for something that happened 70 years ago. That is just ludicrous. Blowing up the oil tanker was a bit extreme in these conditions. It's ridiculous to compare it to the Holocaust though - something that the Germans are very embarrassed about to this day.

not quite the case, having spent time in germany there is STILL a small percentage that are certainly NOT embarrassed.