How times have changed - Page 2

banjoman · 02-06-2008, 18:48

I`m sure that when slide rules and log tables first came out, the "older" generation tutted and said "none of that in my day". I dont see anything wrong in using the tools of the day as thats what people will use in the real world. At the end of a day a calculator will only provide the right answer if you put the right details in so you have to know what you are doing.

Now if they were allowed google and email to get someone else to do it then I agree thats not correct, but a calculator is fine. Its a bit like in an art class...If someone submits a project which is CGI, but they have made it all themselves etc is it any less art just because a computer made it rather than himself directly ?

steeljack · 02-06-2008, 19:00

nearly 45 years since I last used log tables and still remember 0.4972 as the log of Pi .
a brain is a terrible thing to waste

Royboy39 · 02-06-2008, 19:06

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Originally Posted by steeljack

nearly 45 years since I last used log tables and still remember 0.4972 as the log of Pi .
a brain is a terrible thing to waste

All they taught at my school was the ingredients of a pie.

BERNADETTE · 02-06-2008, 19:16

This is the reason that a lot of young people can't calculate anything in their heads. We got brains to use them, don't need a calculator

garinda · 02-06-2008, 19:21

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

This is the reason that a lot of young people can't calculate anything in their heads. We got brains to use them, don't need a calculator

It's true, there are times when we need to use mental arithimetic, and when we don't have access to a calculator.

Perhaps we'll soon be able to take secretaries, or P.A.'s, into examinations.

accyman · 02-06-2008, 19:24

kids exams are easier they just make them look harder , for some strange reason when my son has maths homework the way the show him to work out long multiplication and division takes up half a page per sum

to be honest since c.s.e examinations it has got easier and easier to pass an exam in the UK

a retarded monkey could pass a G.C.S.E as the teacher basicly does most of your exam with you over the year during class to make sure at least the pupils get that part right and at least get a pass

dont get me started on N.V.Q's they are basicly certificates for the stupid and i point blank refused to take one at my last employment seen as i had been doing the job for 10 years i certainly didnt need a thicko's certifcate to tell me i knew what i was doing

never mind calculators in 5 years time each student will probably have a teacher doing the exam paper for them so we at least appear to be as bright as the rest of europe

entwisi · 02-06-2008, 19:36

I went to Rhyddings! I was one of thjose who enjoyed teh snowball fights down at teh bottom of teh road.

BERNADETTE · 02-06-2008, 19:36

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Originally Posted by garinda

It's true, there are times when we need to use mental arithimetic, and when we don't have access to a calculator.

Perhaps we'll soon be able to take secretaries, or P.A.'s, into examinations.

It really winds me up when I have to tell someone how much change they owe me and don't get me started on helping out by giving the odds i.e. 55p when it is £3:55, they look at you blank

accyman · 02-06-2008, 19:37

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Originally Posted by entwisi

I went to Rhyddings! I was one of thjose who enjoyed teh snowball fights down at teh bottom of teh road.

shoulda gone to saint christophers we didnt have as far to go for a snowball fight lol

emamum · 02-06-2008, 19:39

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

It really winds me up when I have to tell someone how much change they owe me and don't get me started on helping out by giving the odds i.e. 55p when it is £3:55, they look at you blank

*stares blankly at bernie*

jaysay · 03-06-2008, 10:47

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Originally Posted by garinda

It's true, there are times when we need to use mental arithimetic, and when we don't have access to a calculator.

Perhaps we'll soon be able to take secretaries, or P.A.'s, into examinations.

What do you mean Rindi they'll be sending them in their place

shillelagh · 03-06-2008, 16:57

I was given a slide rule when i went to the high school - when i left 6 years later i still couldnt use the damn thing in fact i may still have it. Got a calculator at the same time - now that i could use!!!! Not got it now though - it saw me through my CSE's though.

emamum · 03-06-2008, 17:24

Ive just googled slide rule because id never heard of it before.. can anyone explain how you use one?

wikipedia describes it as 'a mechanical analog computer' obviously not a computer in the same way as the thing i am using at the moment.

Tealeaf · 03-06-2008, 17:26

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Originally Posted by emamum23

.. can anyone explain how you use one?

Can you count to 10?

slinky · 03-06-2008, 17:31

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Originally Posted by accyman

dont get me started on N.V.Q's they are basicly certificates for the stupid and i point blank refused to take one at my last employment seen as i had been doing the job for 10 years i certainly didnt need a thicko's certifcate to tell me i knew what i was doing

Well that's not exactly true, because an NVQ level 3 in Care can be a pass into Nursing through UNI .... so not always. And a NVQ level 4 and 5, will get you a managers job!!

But I do agree, if you have been doing a job for 10 years, and you don't want to GO UP THE LADDER so to speak, then why do managers persist on people doing NVQ's just to prove they can do the job they have been doing perfectly fine for 10 years??