How would you deal with anti-social behaviour? - Page 3

emamum · 11-05-2008, 18:29

yep....cos i am addicted to nicotene

derekgas · 11-05-2008, 18:32

You would normally feel 'out of sorts' at the very least if you were to break any addiction, your body gets used to the addictive substance, when you change, the body resents the change, this goes for any habit, even a non addictive one like a particular routine, if you break the routine, you will spend time feeling out of sorts.

Another thread wander by the way blazey, too late to break the habit now, lol

blazey · 11-05-2008, 18:38

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Originally Posted by derekgas

You would normally feel 'out of sorts' at the very least if you were to break any addiction, your body gets used to the addictive substance, when you change, the body resents the change, this goes for any habit, even a non addictive one like a particular routine, if you break the routine, you will spend time feeling out of sorts.

Another thread wander by the way blazey, too late to break the habit now, lol

Never mind, my youthful spontaneity will hopefully be appreciated by someone somewhere.

Royboy39 · 11-05-2008, 21:26

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Never mind, my youthful spontaneity will hopefully be appreciated by someone somewhere.

Try speakers corner.

Why not allow the victims of all crimes to claim for their loss through the County Courts and put the criminals in debt for the rest of their lives?
and hound them with baliffs if they do not pay up.........parking fines spark these bullies into action...why not the real criminals?

No credit - No Mortgage - No Car......only an idea?

Royboy39 · 11-05-2008, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Why not allow the victims of all crimes to claim for their loss through the County Courts and put the criminals in debt for the rest of their lives?
and hound them with baliffs if they do not pay up.........parking fines spark these bullies into action...why not the real criminals?

No credit - No Mortgage - No Car......only an idea?

Second thoughts on this why not make the County Court order automatic at the expense of the government?

I was burgled just before I left England..I lost a few items which I could not replace at any price...the nerd who did it got twelve months but I feel this plonker is still in debt to me.

polly · 12-05-2008, 07:02

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Ok, I will say it again, bring back national service, hanging, birch, etc etc, polly, your are beginning to sounds like a social worker, and in my opinion, they are part of the problem, plenty of good intention but no idea about reality, you cannot blame the parents totally, and cannot go around removing children from families because one/all the children have problems, you need to diagnose the problems CORRECTLY first, then address those problems, removing the kids is not the answer, I have two adopted children who are problematic, so am I to be locked up, and my other kids taken away because of that?

I am surprised that anyone with adopted children, particularly 'problematic' ones could interpret anything I have written as being the views of a social worker. The theory withing social services is that children should be kept with their own, natural families at any cost. This is the reason we have so many 'problematic' children.

A correct (clinically evaluated) diagnosis can take years, during which time the child gets worse and society at large suffers greatly.

Many parents have either lost control or never had it in the first place. Not removing the child and giving them a better chance elsewhere is an infringement of their human rights and makes us all suffer.

polly · 12-05-2008, 07:03

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Try speakers corner.

Why not allow the victims of all crimes to claim for their loss through the County Courts and put the criminals in debt for the rest of their lives?
and hound them with baliffs if they do not pay up.........parking fines spark these bullies into action...why not the real criminals?

No credit - No Mortgage - No Car......only an idea?

Why not indeed............ and if the criminal is under 18 (yes 18 parental should not stop at 16) the lets hound the parents too... its their fualt let them pay.

blazey · 12-05-2008, 10:24

Oh yes, let's take away peoples rights to mortgages and cars, how many criminals would you expect this to disadvantage? Fines do occur, problem is that most people only pay them a little bit at a time because they can't afford to just pay massive lump sums, and if you did force them to it would only increase the problem of poverty and no doubt increase crimes, particularly shop lifting and muggings.

If that was a realistic idea, I don't think the government would hesitate to implement such a harsh fining system. Can't think of anything else the government holds back on sponging money from, so why not? Because it would be ridiculously damaging to society, which is pretty damn obvious.

And just a reminder for Royboy39, but this is a public forum, so in theory it IS pretty much a place for me to air my views whether you like them or not. Stop aiming your sarcastic abusive comments at me. This forum (allegedly) doesn't tolerate personal attacks, and I don't see why I should be made to feel unwelcome.

blazey · 12-05-2008, 10:26

Just to add, children are criminally liable from the age of ten.

MargaretR · 12-05-2008, 10:44

"Stop aiming your sarcastic abusive comments at me. This forum (allegedly) doesn't tolerate personal attacks, and I don't see why I should be made to feel unwelcome"
You aren't being singled out Blazey - quite a few of us have been in his 'firing line'.

Royboy39 · 12-05-2008, 10:58

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"Stop aiming your sarcastic abusive comments at me. This forum (allegedly) doesn't tolerate personal attacks, and I don't see why I should be made to feel unwelcome"
You aren't being singled out Blazey - quite a few of us have been in his 'firing line'.

For good reason sometimes......picking on the odd members of this forum really gets my back up when it is obvious that the one on the receiving end is not as well versed as the attacker.

Stick together you two girls.......your brownie points are mounting.

One of the attributes of a good member is not to try and make the other member look or appear silly.

Blazey...........when the boot is on the other foot you dont like it...It shows.

emamum · 12-05-2008, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

For good reason sometimes......picking on the odd members of this forum really gets my back up when it is obvious that the one on the receiving end is not as well versed as the attacker.

Stick together you two girls.......your brownie points are mounting.

One of the attributes of a good member is not to try and make the other member look or appear silly.

Blazey...........when the boot is on the other foot you dont like it...It shows.

do you think you are a good member?

Royboy39 · 12-05-2008, 11:29

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do you think you are a good member?

Thats not for me to say........I have a lot of friends on these forums and one or two who dont agree with what I post....such is life.

To carry on with the subject........Where is this anti social behaviour going to end?
Three Injured In Darwen Woods Attack (from Lancashire Telegraph)

I think the attackers in this disgusting display of cowardice should be put away for a very long time?

magpie · 12-05-2008, 14:32

Easy:

Prison

( but not a holiday camp)

Basic Small Cell, food and water. and Absolutely no frills:

( or phone cards )

They can spend their time doing good... making things, Braille translation and so on:

polly · 12-05-2008, 14:38

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Originally Posted by blazey

Just to add, children are criminally liable from the age of ten.

In theory yes, in practise we are constantly seeing the 11 - 18 year olds getting away with alsorts. We need to deal with reality not what the books say.