Hug-a-hoody Tory mugged by hoodies.

garinda · 05-07-2008, 16:04

Although violence is never funny, there is a certain amusing irony about this story, which saw 'Dave' Cameron's hug a hoody speech writer, attacked by hoodies.

Perhaps now the Conservatives will come up with another idea about tackling the feral youth of Britain, rather than telling us to hug them.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4265550.ece

andrewb · 05-07-2008, 16:14

I think this just highlights the problems with our broken society. I shouldn't need to mention it but he never mentioned hugging hoodies, the term was engineered by a tabloid. It's a shame some papers can't look at the issue and see that what we're doing at the moment is simply not working, we need a different approach to fix our broken society.

derekgas · 05-07-2008, 16:18

Wonderful garinda, well spotted, there was a similar thing some years ago with a counciller saying police should not be chasing around after car thieves, weeks later he was chatting to a patrol car driver, and his car drove past them, the councillor told the patrol car driver 'dont sit there, get after them' was a peach!

cashman · 05-07-2008, 16:21

wether said or not is irrelevant as the speech was advocating a " Softer Approach to Violent Crime" i think its very ironic.

wonder if he still feels the same?

andrewb · 05-07-2008, 16:23

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Originally Posted by cashman

wether said or not is irrelevant as the speech was advocating a " Softer Approach to Violent Crime" i think its very ironic.

wonder if he still feels the same?

What absolute rubbish! They are not soft on crime, that would be silly. Its about understanding why there are kids that do things like this. Looking at how we can solve the problems.

cashman · 05-07-2008, 16:26

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Originally Posted by andrewb

What absolute rubbish!

well it was the Times,it aint no socialist rag.

andrewb · 05-07-2008, 16:31

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Originally Posted by cashman

well it was the Times,it aint no socialist rag.

Indeed it is, I hope you're not under the illusion that every historically right paper and every left paper do nothing but publish positive articles for the respective party as some kind of propaganda machine.

garinda · 05-07-2008, 16:34

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Originally Posted by andrewb

I think this just highlights the problems with our broken society. I shouldn't need to mention it but he never mentioned hugging hoodies, the term was engineered by a tabloid. It's a shame some papers can't look at the issue and see that what we're doing at the moment is simply not working, we need a different approach to fix our broken society.

My quote's from the Times.

You'll find it's been reported in most of the press.

Surely all the press can't be wrong.

It's even in the arch Tory Bible, the Daily Telegraph.

cashman · 05-07-2008, 16:34

not really papers publish what sells n sod the impact on folk, but far as i'm aware the times do not fund the labour party.

andrewb · 05-07-2008, 16:42

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Originally Posted by cashman

not really papers publish what sells n sod the impact on folk, but far as i'm aware the times do not fund the labour party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

At the end of the Thatcher/Major era, Murdoch switched his support to the Labour Party and the party's leader Tony Blair. The closeness of his relationship with Blair and their secret meetings to discuss national policies was to become a political issue in Britain.

But yes I agree, the papers publish things and write things in a way that will get the most reads.

Less · 05-07-2008, 16:43

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Originally Posted by andrewb

What absolute rubbish! They are not soft on crime, that would be silly. Its about understanding why there are kids that do things like this. Looking at how we can solve the problems.

(Less puts on his care in the community voice),
Of course it's absolute rubbish! Anyone with sense would know that a Conservative only cares about Conservatives, (though like with Roman Emporer's watch out for the blade between the shoulders), if there is one thing Conservatives won't be soft on it's crime from the blue collar class, after all most of the white collar crimes are caused by people that vote in one certain direction.
I doubt that any Conservative can understand how a hoody thinks it's right that he should commit crimes to earn financial gain, perhaps it's for the same reason as the fraudulent millionaire? Greed?

andrewb · 05-07-2008, 16:45

I think we should have a philosophical debate on human nature.

garinda · 05-07-2008, 16:53

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I doubt that any Conservative can understand how a hoody thinks it's right that he should commit crimes to earn financial gain, perhaps it's for the same reason as the fraudulent millionaire? Greed?

Unless of course the hoodies are going to vote Conservative, attracted by the soft and caring attitude Cameron has for them.

Perhaps he'll suggest that mugging is really a burgeoning small business enterprise, and deserves a start up grant.

WillowTheWhisp · 05-07-2008, 19:51

Ah but you see he tried to stop a gang stealing a moped. He should have taken Boris J's advice and kept out of it.

Gayle · 05-07-2008, 20:03

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Originally Posted by andrewb

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch

But yes I agree, the papers publish things and write things in a way that will get the most reads.

But they write things that will get 'most reads' by their target audiences - so for example the Daily Mail knows that it will get most reads by its target of 'outraged of middle England' whereas the Guardian is going for 'most reads' by people who wear aran sweaters and eat lentils.

So of course they're biaised.