Hyndburn Homes - security compromised. - Page 13

garinda · 10-08-2011, 15:51

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Originally Posted by topographic

I'm not getting into arguments, I came on here to give information that people were asking about. If tenants want to make an official complaint they should go through HH complaints procedure.

HH is a small organisation, If I gave my position it would be easy to guess.

Sorry if you feel that way John but it is true.

You might be a ten year old nutter, pretending to speak in an offical capacity on behalf of Hyndburn Homes, for all anyone here knows.

Can't really see the problem really, with sharing the job you do with them.

It might have added a little clout to what you've been saying.

As you said, you're very busy, with jobs to do, so...

See ya.

Thanks for popping in.

harwood red · 11-08-2011, 12:58

If indeed it was deemed the locks had to be removed straight away but were always going to be replaced once sourced then a simple note through the letterbox of all tenant's it affected explaining the problem probably would have reduced the amount of negativity that was created by the whole debacle!!!

MargaretR · 11-08-2011, 13:31

It is now two weeks since locking facilities were removed.
As yet the only block, as far as I know, which has been provided with new locks is mine.
Whilst I am glad that my security has been restored, I do not propose to let this thread die until I get an answer to a question I posed to topographic earlier -
How soon will all locks be restored?

cashman · 11-08-2011, 13:47

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

It is now two weeks since locking facilities were removed.
As yet the only block, as far as I know, which has been provided with new locks is mine.
Whilst I am glad that my security has been restored, I do not propose to let this thread die until I get an answer to a question I posed to topographic earlier -
How soon will all locks be restored?

the thread will go on forever then i forecast, doubt if he will return.

MargaretR · 11-08-2011, 13:57

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Originally Posted by cashman

the thread will go on forever then i forecast, doubt if he will return.

Maybe not - but telegraph_reporter likely will

garinda · 11-08-2011, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by harwood red

If indeed it was deemed the locks had to be removed straight away but were always going to be replaced once sourced then a simple note through the letterbox of all tenant's it affected explaining the problem probably would have reduced the amount of negativity that was created by the whole debacle!!!

Exactly.

This seems to be more about face saving.

Saying only now, that new locks were going to be fitted anyway.

Residents weren't told that.

They were just told locks were being removed because it was deemed to be a fire hazard.

Tealeaf · 11-08-2011, 14:06

Surely the most cost effective way of replacing the locks would be to have the locksmiths replacing the locks as they removed the old ones?

garinda · 11-08-2011, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Surely the most cost effective way of replacing the locks would be to have the locksmiths replacing the locks as they removed the old ones?

I doubt that would have been possible.

I have a feeling that someone at Hyndburn Homes is frantically trying to source new, Fire Brigade approved locks.

Tealeaf · 11-08-2011, 15:16

Of course it's possible...it's easy...had these jokers got their act togeather.

jaysay · 11-08-2011, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR

It is now two weeks since locking facilities were removed.
As yet the only block, as far as I know, which has been provided with new locks is mine.
Whilst I am glad that my security has been restored, I do not propose to let this thread die until I get an answer to a question I posed to topographic earlier -
How soon will all locks be restored?

The reason they've probable done your block Margaret, is they were fed up of the ear ache

as for them all being replaced I heard they have no money to replace them, which seems like par for the course

jaysay · 11-08-2011, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by harwood red

If indeed it was deemed the locks had to be removed straight away but were always going to be replaced once sourced then a simple note through the letterbox of all tenant's it affected explaining the problem probably would have reduced the amount of negativity that was created by the whole debacle!!!

They did drop a not though every door on the estate Red

jaysay · 11-08-2011, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Surely the most cost effective way of replacing the locks would be to have the locksmiths replacing the locks as they removed the old ones?

Oh come on Tealeaf HH don't do effectiveness

jaysay · 13-08-2011, 10:14

Got A letter this morning from HH regarding the locks, now I'm not sure if all residents concerned have got a letter of this type or I have been singled out because I went public in the Obs about the problem. Normally when its a blanket drop they usually addressed Dear Resident and are delivered by had, but this one was address personally to me.

Basically the letter went into details about what actually went on and enclosed a couple of lines from Government Guidance. It then went on to detail what has been decided and when it will be carried out commencing the 15th August 2011.

Basically they are replacing the current locks with Euro-profile locks with thumb-turns to the inside for uPVC/composite doors and Nightlatch [without snibs] to communal entrance doors. That is the exact wording of the statement verbatim

After fitting of these locks two keys per lock will be given to each flat which will need to be signed for. wonderful

This letter was signed by Andrew Peak Lead Project Surveyor, asset Management Section

I'm really pleased that they have gone to all this trouble just for our safety, the only problem I have is this, if Mr Peak had have done a little surveying prior to the original locks being removed he may just have found out that the locks which were removed where exactly the same locks which they are now going to install, i.e A thumb turn on the inside of the door, no key needed, doh. In other words they have just undertaken an exercise in crass stupidity and a waste of money which COULD have been spent on other needy projects, you really couldn't make it up.

MargaretR · 13-08-2011, 10:25

I have recieved the same letter today.
I was told that Andrew Peak was the man who attended the recent meeting called by the Fire Brigade .
I think this is him
Property Alliance Group
...there is no date on that webpage - could be some previous employer's 'news'

Neil · 13-08-2011, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay

Basically they are replacing the current locks with Euro-profile locks with thumb-turns to the inside for uPVC/composite doors and Nightlatch [without snibs] to communal entrance doors. That is the exact wording of the statement verbatim

They could fit mortice euro locks that would have fitted in place of the old locks as they are not expensive