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20-01-2010, 18:16
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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I signed up to the site to see if it still worked. Lighten up.
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I am being light, obviously not 'lite' enough.
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20-01-2010, 18:25
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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I could probably tell you, if I looked through my credit card receipt's but it would involve a lot of searching to be accurate, I do remember my credit limit at the time was only £200 and I had used most of that to buy fag's and drink that week, any how what was left over he used.
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So Accy Web probably cost around 1/1000th of that, £59.10?
Just think what you could have done with the change left over?
Still, it's only money that was wasted...people's hard earned taxes, but only money at the end of the day, and as our council knows, that grows on trees.
No matter how much you send 'em, they'll always use it wisely.
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20-01-2010, 18:42
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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So Accy Web probably cost around 1/1000th of that, £59.10?
Just think what you could have done with the change left over?
Still, it's only money that was wasted...people's hard earned taxes, but only money at the end of the day, and as our council knows, that grows on trees.
No matter how much you send 'em, they'll always use it wisely.
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At the time I was working and often lived beyond my means, so I was probably digging deeply into my credit card myself, I would knock the 10p off your estimate so that we can't be accused of exaggeration, after all back then he did use freeware type software not this cutting edge, 'look Dad I'll update the software but not until I can catch the mod's when their all busy', cutting edge software.
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20-01-2010, 19:27
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
Just a thought though - the money that was 'wasted', what was it actually spent on?
Hardware - possibly bought from a local supplier
Software - probably a national one, so we'll gloss over this one
Staff wages - all local people which means that people were paid a wage and it was spent in local shops in the local economy
I'm not trying to justify it, because I don't think there's any doubt that it didn't work, but just trying to play devils advocate and look at how 'wasted' money, isn't actually as 'wasted' as you might think. Some people who live locally earned money, which put bread on their table and clothes on their back.
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20-01-2010, 19:47
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Just a thought though - the money that was 'wasted', what was it actually spent on?
Hardware - possibly bought from a local supplier
Software - probably a national one, so we'll gloss over this one
Staff wages - all local people which means that people were paid a wage and it was spent in local shops in the local economy
I'm not trying to justify it, because I don't think there's any doubt that it didn't work, but just trying to play devils advocate and look at how 'wasted' money, isn't actually as 'wasted' as you might think. Some people who live locally earned money, which put bread on their table and clothes on their back.
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It's 'wasted' period, if it didn't fulfill it's brief, provinding a community website for Hyndburn, and never got off the ground because of the apathy of our council.
£591,000.00 would provide an awful lot of bread, on even the greediest of glutton's table.
It would be interesting to see an actual breakdown of where the money was spent, by whom, and on what.
You never know, perhaps an enterprising youngster, with an interest in local politics, might helpfully use the Freedom of Information Act to find out the actual spending details.
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20-01-2010, 19:49
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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i hope theres no stanley fans reading this .. just to have a look on their bit of hyndburn life ... they'll definately pull the plug ..
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You think that's bad? Just go and look at the Stanley section on the HBC council leader's own site...
Councillor Peter Britcliffe - Accrington stanley
...words fail me.
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20-01-2010, 19:56
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
As for 'staff wages', if that's the case, if I'd employed anyone so incompetent, they'd have more likely received a boot up the backside, back to the dole queue, rather than any wages, considering the shoddiness at the way it was so infrequently, and badly updated, and considering how little time it was actually active.
The whole sorry, expensive fiasco is shameful.
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20-01-2010, 19:59
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Don't!
We must stop proofreading, and giving them time to correct their mistakes.
Mind you, it took ten years to get the infamous Accriwotton changed on Cllr. Britcliffe's BBC C.V.
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20-01-2010, 20:07
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Don't!
We must stop proofreading, and giving them time to correct their mistakes.
Mind you, it took ten years to get the infamous Accriwotton changed on Cllr. Britcliffe's BBC C.V.
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There's also quite a few factual inaccuracies, but I won't go into those, as I don't want to bore the non-Stanley fans on here.
However, do me a favour, Rindy, and listen to the heavy rock song on there. Are they really singing the word I think they're singing at 2.00 minutes?
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20-01-2010, 20:07
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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As for 'staff wages', if that's the case, if I'd employed anyone so incompetent, they'd have more likely received a boot up the backside, back to the dole queue, rather than any wages, considering the shoddiness at the way it was so infrequently, and badly updated, and considering how little time it was actually active.
The whole sorry, expensive fiasco is shameful.
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I think the idea was that us, the great people of Accrington, would keep it updated, once the site was up and running. Unfortunately, it didn't capture the imagination and so no one used it, thus in turn, no one updated it so it didn't contain much information.
I'm just trying to find a positive because that's my way.
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20-01-2010, 20:09
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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I still find it a little odd that here's no link to the local community website, Accrington Web, on his link page.
Councillor Peter Britcliffe - Interesting links
Though there is a handy link for Hyndburn Theatre & Events Guide, which takes you to H.B.C.'s website
...but sadly it doesn't work.
Oh well, what can you expect?
At least an effort was made, so that's good.
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20-01-2010, 20:20
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by Gayle
I think the idea was that us, the great people of Accrington, would keep it updated, once the site was up and running. Unfortunately, it didn't capture the imagination and so no one used it, thus in turn, no one updated it so it didn't contain much information.
I'm just trying to find a positive because that's my way.
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I prefer to see thing in real terms, 20/20 vision clarity, incase things like facts are missed. That's just my way.
Let's try and work out what the financial costs would have been, if the good people of Hyndburn had taken it to their hearts, and if say it had been properly marketed, and they'd regularly 'updated' it themselves.
That's right, nothing.
No 'staff wages'.
Zilch.
Nowt.
In fact that wouldn't have taken one penny of the £591,000.00 they'd be given of tax payer's money.
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20-01-2010, 22:42
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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There's also quite a few factual inaccuracies, but I won't go into those, as I don't want to bore the non-Stanley fans on here.
However, do me a favour, Rindy, and listen to the heavy rock song on there. Are they really singing the word I think they're singing at 2.00 minutes?
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Oh Mr. Wynonie, you go to the top of the class!
Yes, you are quite right.
The leader of Hyndburn Borough Council has on his website a song with the foulest four letter swear word, there for every man, woman, and child to listen to.
Hold the front page!
Peter 'silly cow' Britcliffe in 'F' word shocker...uncovered on a community based website, that has cost the tax payer nowt.
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20-01-2010, 22:45
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
I'm not going to link the video, as this is a family forum, but the link to his site is there.
Please do not listen to the song, if you are offended by foul swearing.
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20-01-2010, 22:48
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
It's almost like he's put a load of stuff on about Stanley, to appear in a favourable light to the people and fans, but has no idea what is actually on there.
Even if it was posted by himself, in his third person guise, it's his website, and he's responsible.
Not in my name.
Disgraceful.
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