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07-03-2010, 00:11
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
The Government gave the money to the Council for the Council to come up with ideas. The council match funded it with European money we had been allocated.
It was 100% a Council decision and it says that in the proposal .
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01-04-2010, 07:51
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
If only there was some of the £591,000.00 left, that was given to be used for community websites.
Costly website a ‘desperate failure’ - Accrington Observer
It could have been used to provide technological help...for a month or two.
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01-04-2010, 08:04
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by garinda
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£591,000???
It is interesting to note that none of that money came directly from Hyndburn Council but how can that figure possibly be justified? Millions of people around the world host fantastic and vastly informative websites for a pittance but this was passed through as a good use of tax revenue and value for money??
Let's just work on the principle that an administrator works two hours a day on maintaining the site on a generous wage of £10 per hour (within which I'll include the cost of the domain name per day) you could run a website for over 80 years.
Even if someone was employed full-time on a wage of £15,000 per year just to update it you could still keep it going for over 39 years for that price.
I'm disgusted with every councillor who voted in favour of this proposal, it is an absolute disgrace.
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01-04-2010, 08:06
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
£591,000???
It is interesting to note that none of that money came directly from Hyndburn Council but how can that figure possibly be justified? Millions of people around the world host fantastic and vastly informative websites for a pittance but this was passed through as a good use of tax revenue and value for money??
Let's just work on the principle that an administrator works two hours a day on maintaining the site on a generous wage of £10 per hour (within which I'll include the cost of the domain name per day) you could run a website for over 80 years.
Even if someone was employed full-time on a wage of £15,000 per year just to update it you could still keep it going for over 39 years for that price.
I'm disgusted with every councillor who voted in favour of this proposal, it is an absolute disgrace.
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Oh dear, I wish I'd not brought out this particular mouldy old chesnut now.
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01-04-2010, 08:08
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Oh dear, I wish I'd not brought out this particular mouldy old chesnut now.
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I'm glad you did. Any more instances of ludicrous waste that we might all be interested in hearing about again?
(Can opening......worms....cannot be.......contained!!!!)
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01-04-2010, 08:13
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
I'm glad you did. Any more instances of ludicrous waste that we might all be interested in hearing about again?
(Can opening......worms....cannot be.......contained!!!!)
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I haven't got time to read through all the 'threads started by garinda' right now, as Jezzer's about to start, and it's lie detector results day this morning.
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01-04-2010, 08:23
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
£591,000???
It is interesting to note that none of that money came directly from Hyndburn Council but how can that figure possibly be justified? Millions of people around the world host fantastic and vastly informative websites for a pittance but this was passed through as a good use of tax revenue and value for money??
Let's just work on the principle that an administrator works two hours a day on maintaining the site on a generous wage of £10 per hour (within which I'll include the cost of the domain name per day) you could run a website for over 80 years.
Even if someone was employed full-time on a wage of £15,000 per year just to update it you could still keep it going for over 39 years for that price.
I'm disgusted with every councillor who voted in favour of this proposal, it is an absolute disgrace.
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Just to let you know Ken, you're on one of the:-
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fantastic and vastly informative websites for a pittance
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But with hidden costs such as software updates & Running servers to give it enough space, the bill comes to quite a large pittance each month.
If it wasn't for the regular donations from some members the site would not be here.
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01-04-2010, 08:24
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
And the Mods have just put in for a 20% wage rise too
So we need all the Donations we can get.
Please help the poor site and the Mods
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01-04-2010, 08:30
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by Less
Just to let you know Ken, you're on one of the:-
But with hidden costs such as software updates & Running servers to give it enough space, the bill comes to quite a large pittance each month.
If it wasn't for the regular donations from some members the site would not be here.
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Oh, I'm sure it's not as simple as I implied it to be but did no one look at that figure and wonder if it was just a tad on the expensive side?
Accyweb is a prime example of a great website, as you just pointed out Less. I use it every day and have started promoting it to residents of Rishton as something they might be very interested in having a look at and getting involved with.
It's a superb central community resource for Hyndburn, well done to all.
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01-04-2010, 08:34
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
Oh, I'm sure it's not as simple as I implied it to be but did no one look at that figure and wonder if it was just a tad on the expensive side?
Accyweb is a prime example of a great website, as you just pointed out Less. I use it every day and have started promoting it to residents of Rishton as something they might be very interested in having a look at and getting involved with.
It's a superb central community resource for Hyndburn, well done to all.
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You're welcome Ken.
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01-04-2010, 08:57
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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I'll cut you a cheque....
But there we have a figure of £200 per month to host the site. Let's be generous and say £250 per month plus put your wages up to £17k per year and have two of you running it full time.
Still means that you've got a website you can run for 15 years for that cost.
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01-04-2010, 09:31
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by Ken Moss
I'll cut you a cheque....
But there we have a figure of £200 per month to host the site. Let's be generous and say £250 per month plus put your wages up to £17k per year and have two of you running it full time.
Still means that you've got a website you can run for 15 years for that cost.
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I will apologise now, the biggest saving the site has is the mod's they do their thankless task for nothing, there are NO wages drawn against accyweb, it was started for what it still is, like, (and not so like), minded people getting together and having discussions.
I think it's time we went back on thread, rindy gave you a link for the report on the council site, maybe we can continue over there?
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01-04-2010, 10:40
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Moss
£591,000???
It is interesting to note that none of that money came directly from Hyndburn Council but how can that figure possibly be justified? Millions of people around the world host fantastic and vastly informative websites for a pittance but this was passed through as a good use of tax revenue and value for money??
Let's just work on the principle that an administrator works two hours a day on maintaining the site on a generous wage of £10 per hour (within which I'll include the cost of the domain name per day) you could run a website for over 80 years.
Even if someone was employed full-time on a wage of £15,000 per year just to update it you could still keep it going for over 39 years for that price.
I'm disgusted with every councillor who voted in favour of this proposal, it is an absolute disgrace.
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I don't think the cost was JUST for Hyndburn. It's still ridiculously expensive, but then government projects always are. They never seek to get the best value. Why bother when it's not their money.
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01-04-2010, 10:48
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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Originally Posted by andrewb
I don't think the cost was JUST for Hyndburn. It's still ridiculously expensive, but then government projects always are. They never seek to get the best value. Why bother when it's not their money.
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Unfortunately Andrew, that's how it reads. If you can direct me to information that states otherwise I'll gladly take a look and reappraise things.
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01-04-2010, 10:49
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re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
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They never seek to get the best value.
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The people of Hyndburn certainly didn't get value for money, when the £591,000.00, given to our council to facilitate a community website, was wasted on the dismal, and now defunct, Hyndburn Life website.
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