Hyndburn Local Elections - 5th May - Page 14

jaysay · 08-05-2011, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

I was a joke, Gynn and myself go back along way.

I'm quite aware it was a joke Bernard, you must know gynn very well

yerself · 08-05-2011, 18:09

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Originally Posted by g jones

Had a long discussion about implementing what we promised. About the many issues and problems left to us. About the hundreds of small changes, about each ward. About the long term view. About the options that Labour councillors will have to consider.

What has it got to do with you? Ken Moss and others told us that local politics and parliamentary/party politics were two completely different animals, we were advised to ignore the colour of the rosette and vote for the person. If this is so couldn't you have had deep and meaningful discussions with PB about was best for the borough of Hyndburn.

jaysay · 08-05-2011, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

politicians don't feel the barbs of insults, they only feel pain in their wallets.

Think your spot on with that one Margaret, but if I had ever been fit to be a councillor, it wouldn't have applied to me because I always said I wouldn't claim a penny in allowances just out of pocket expenses, you see I was brought up in politics when councillors did their duties for the good of the community not their pockets, which meant that you actually got people who genuinely wanted to make a difference. As people know I was involved in politics for many years I was also very much involved with numerous charities, so my involvement within the community actually cost me money rather than make it, but I wouldn't have it any other way, at least I could sleep at night with a clear conscience

jaysay · 08-05-2011, 18:14

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Originally Posted by yerself

What has it got to do with you? Ken Moss and others told us that local politics and parliamentary/party politics were two completely different animals, we were advised to ignore the colour of the rosette and vote for the person. If this is so couldn't you have had deep and meaningful discussions with PB about was best for the borough of Hyndburn.

Think that discussion would have had to be in a boxing ring yerself

Ken Moss · 08-05-2011, 19:29

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Originally Posted by yerself

What has it got to do with you? Ken Moss and others told us that local politics and parliamentary/party politics were two completely different animals, we were advised to ignore the colour of the rosette and vote for the person. If this is so couldn't you have had deep and meaningful discussions with PB about was best for the borough of Hyndburn.

That's sort of what I was driving at but not entirely. Voting for a badge should not be the be all and end all of your ballot, for instance if you were staunch Tory but knew in your heart of hearts that they weren't the best for the job it makes the vote worthless, same with any candidate of any colour. Graham was easily the best man for the job of MP which is why he will always have my support and that of every other Labour councillor (I suspect a few Tories on the quiet as well). I could point to Ken Hargreaves as a man who was respected for his worth rather than his badge.

What I personally am trying to get away from is councillors purely being standard bearers for the national party and getting people to recognise the wheat from the chaff in Hyndburn when it comes to the ballot box.

g jones · 08-05-2011, 22:09

No opposition leader made as many positive contributions as I did. I worked with PB and though the means was unconstructive, the ends, though small changes, were positive.

Velcro recycling bags, rate relief for clubs, scrapping of group repairs, improved cleansing, establishment of a dedicated enforcement unit, opposing Lancashire LEP, opening of infront of the town hall.

I wanted to work with Peter. He didn't want to work with me or in fact his own members who received the same 'hairdryer treatment'.

My caseload contains much to do with HBC. As a resident and Labour Party member - we have a joint responsibility.

cashman · 08-05-2011, 22:20

was probably just as hard to work wi Caligua.

katex · 08-05-2011, 22:48

The next council meeting is going to be really interesting. 24th May ?

Hope to make it .. PB will be a formidable opponent.

garinda · 08-05-2011, 23:03

Will it make a difference to us mere mortals, having a council, and M.P., from the same party?

Been a while since it's been like this.

Shouldn't really make a difference, I suppose..

Though there might be some benefits to Hyndburn. Having the leader of the council, and our represntative at Westminster, singing from the same hymn sheet.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Bernard Dawson · 08-05-2011, 23:07

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Originally Posted by katex

The next council meeting is going to be really interesting. 24th May ?

Hope to make it .. PB will be a formidable opponent.

I think I remember the last time you came to a Council meeting. Was it the controversial one?

Josie Bloggs · 08-05-2011, 23:14

Tempted to go too.

cashman · 08-05-2011, 23:15

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Originally Posted by katex

The next council meeting is going to be really interesting. 24th May ?

Hope to make it .. PB will be a formidable opponent.

Not sure about that Kate,he was rejected at National level a while ago, presumably cos he wasn't good enough, the locals may just bite his ass, yeh never know, its a funny old game.

Bernard Dawson · 08-05-2011, 23:18

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Originally Posted by garinda

Will it make a difference to us mere mortals, having a council, and M.P., from the same party?

Been a while since it's been like this.

Shouldn't really make a difference, I suppose..

Though there might be some benefits to Hyndburn. Having the leader of the council, and our represntative at Westminster, singing from the same hymn sheet.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

It does help. But they don't necessarily have to be from the same party. What's important is that everyone is pushing in the same direction. Egos can get in the way sometime of course.

garinda · 08-05-2011, 23:21

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

I think I remember the last time you came to a Council meeting. Was it the controversial one?

Don't know if it was the last, but Katex was an eye-witness on Silly Cow & Gate night.

cashman · 08-05-2011, 23:24

am being the Devils Advocate here, if i was a local Tory i may just think the odds on us ever regaining control of Hyndburn may get a lot longer if the public thought P.B. was ever gonna return as leader.