Hyndburn Local Elections - 5th May

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by g jones

The Tories had allocated £15k to drain a football pitch that had never been played on in years. Worse, a sizeable piece of one half of the pitch has seen a multi use games area built over it resulting in it being useless as a pitch.

So your complaining that the 'evil' Tories used the premise that half a loaf is better than no bread and used funds available at the time to bring a kids 'play/exercise/keep fit' area back into use (as you wrote the area was being unused for years) and now funds are available they were set spend £15k to upgrade the rest of the area to make an even bigger play/exercise/games use area ........ thought the idea was to get young folks outside exercise more .

Lets be honest £15K is less than a teardrop compared to what your friends and colleagues have squandered on the London Olympics in an effort to get Britain fit

[g jones]

It's a waste. It's not complicated.

[Margaret Pilkington]

and any waste is expensive when there are areas of visible deprivation.

Money should be spent where it can do the most good.

If party politics were taken out of the arena of local government, then maybe, just maybe, more time would be spent 'doing' and less time would be spent mud slinging and name calling.....two pursuits which are childish and lame.

[Mancie]

And it is a lot less than is paid to a certian ossy tory in benefits each year

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

and any waste is expensive when there are areas of visible deprivation.

Money should be spent where it can do the most good.

If party politics were taken out of the arena of local government, then maybe, just maybe, more time would be spent 'doing' and less time would be spent mud slinging and name calling.....two pursuits which are childish and lame.

Mud slinging and name calling will always go on.. and when it gets to the nitty gritty the people that sling the mud will get the returns.. like I said ...some people who have been active in slagging anything that is not "the tory way" are the ones who have gained in some parts of Hydnburn... do us a favour and don't go all soft on us Tory Marg. ..you where one of the most pro Tory posters on here up to the last General Election.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I have no party allegiance Mancie. That means I support no political party Just how many times do I have to tell you this.
Because my views are not aligned to yours, you view me as a tory.(some labour governments have been more tory that tory - and new Labour is not Labour)I vote using critical thought processes....and of course core values, if I don't see a party which is in line with those things....then I don't vote.(and you have harangued me for this)
However, I do vote in local elections.
Party banners are devisive in local issues, and energies which could be spent in working towards resolution of local issues, are wasted in name calling and mud slinging...totally pointless.
A bit like your posts really.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

and any waste is expensive when there are areas of visible deprivation.

Money should be spent where it can do the most good.

If party politics were taken out of the arena of local government, then maybe, just maybe, more time would be spent 'doing' and less time would be spent mud slinging and name calling.....two pursuits which are childish and lame.

Exactly.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I have no party allegiance Mancie. That means I support no political party Just how many times do I have to tell you this.
Because my views are not aligned to yours, you view me as a tory.(some labour governments have been more tory that tory - and new Labour is not Labour)I vote using critical thought processes....and of course core values, if I don't see a party which is in line with those things....then I don't vote.(and you have harangued me for this)
However, I do vote in local elections.
Party banners are devisive in local issues, and energies which could be spent in working towards resolution of local issues, are wasted in name calling and mud slinging...totally pointless.
A bit like your posts really.

No.. I've never seen you post anything that could be seen as anti tory..but seen plenty that are anti Labour.. and I reckon this is were you are found out.. no matter what the argument is you will find some place to blame anyone but the tories.. you don't fool anyone.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

It's a waste. It's not complicated.

So do you not believe in providing safe areas for our kids to play?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

and any waste is expensive when there are areas of visible deprivation.

Money should be spent where it can do the most good.

So you agree with spending our tax money renovating houses belonging to private landlords who according to other posters on here purposely allow areas to become run down so they can buy up houses cheap to then rent out.

The Council should be making these land lords sort out the appearance of their business properties not throwing our money at them.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Neil

So you agree with spending our tax money renovating houses belonging to private landlords who according to other posters on here purposely allow areas to become run down so they can buy up houses cheap to then rent out.

The Council should be making these land lords sort out the appearance of their business properties not throwing our money at them.

Which is why the Labour budget proposed to look at the introduction of extra enforcement officers and tighten up lax enforcement notices in order to alleviate this problem.

Full details of new policies to tackle housing problems will be released when they are ready. Until then it is pointless to enter into discussions based on speculation of what the precise details of those solutions might be. The same is true of all policies of course.

Money should be channelled into problems after measured thought, not simply thrown at votewinning ideas.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Which is why the Labour budget proposed to look at the introduction of extra enforcement officers and tighten up lax enforcement notices in order to alleviate this problem.

Full details of new policies to tackle housing problems will be released when they are ready. Until then it is pointless to enter into discussions based on speculation of what the precise details of those solutions might be. The same is true of all policies of course.

Money should be channelled into problems after measured thought, not simply thrown at votewinning ideas.

That will cost money..money we are told you or any other council don't have.. officially

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Mancie

That will cost money..money we are told you or any other council don't have.. officially

Not to sound patronising but that is what a 'budget' is designed to do, see what money you have and then redistribute it in the areas which you think are important.

As the council is in far worse shape than even we feared thanks to the efforts of Cllr Britcliffe, that job has suddenly become immeasurably more difficult.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

.....Money should be channelled into problems after measured thought, not simply thrown at votewinning ideas.

I agree with you on that

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

As the council is in far worse shape than even we feared thanks to the efforts of Cllr Britcliffe, that job has suddenly become immeasurably more difficult.

Increase council tax by at least inflation then.

Should the residents expect the council to keep taking a cut in income each year which is in effect what a no rise in council tax is.