Hyndburn Masterplan - Page 2

cherokee · 26-01-2008, 01:51

Thought accy had all just been done up .
Now they wanna dig it all up again and start over #???????
Someone down there must have a very boring job and access to a lot of public funding thats all i can say .

Gayle · 26-01-2008, 17:02

Well I went and had a look today and to be honest, I thought most of the plans, good though they were, weren't controversial in the least. They were mostly sensible solutions for the town and all seem to be achievable.

I guess the biggest discussion point will be the bus station. Once I understood the drawings I think it's an inspired choice of positioning. Whilst I was there some people were giving the consultants a hard time, these people were grumbling about the bus station and saying that it could never work there because of congestion. The main idea behind this plan is that the whole road system would be completely changed as well so would alleviate congestion.

If this is to work it has to be embraced and gone for, the only way to make real change is if it's completed wholeheartedly. If it's done in a half arsed way or if it starts to get diluted then it will probably fail. The vision needs to be followed through and not turned into a hotch potch of ideas.

lindsay ormerod · 26-01-2008, 17:12

Looked good to me too Gayle; though I fail to see what value there is in extending the Arndale to build bigger, newer units when we can 't fill the existing ones.
Rest of it looks promising and well thought out; esp the proposed removal/revamp of the butt ugly council building on Broadway.

Mick · 26-01-2008, 17:14

The area at the back of kiwk save is not big enough to swing a cat round never mind a double decker bus.

garinda · 26-01-2008, 17:15

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Looked good to me too Gayle; though I fail to see what value there is in extending the Arndale to build bigger, newer units when we can 't fill the existing ones.
Rest of it looks promising and well thought out; esp the proposed removal/revamp of the butt ugly council building on Broadway.

Sadly I haven't managed to see it, but if the plans do include revamping that hated blue and white monstosity of a council building on Broadway, I'm all for it.

Gayle · 26-01-2008, 17:43

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Originally Posted by mick

The area at the back of kiwk save is not big enough to swing a cat round never mind a double decker bus.

It's a deceptively big space. But also it involves removing the roundabout and replacing the road system which will also create more space. It's the most dramatic part of the plan but I think that a dramatic plan is what's needed here. I think it's been proven time after time that if you go for the 'diluted' version you get the lame improvements that we've had before - the last rejig of the bus station and broadway to name but two examples.

Garinda, the plans will be at the Town Hall for a few days from Monday, I urge everyone to go and visit them and put their opinions in.

park381 · 26-01-2008, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Gayle

It's a deceptively big space. But also it involves removing the roundabout and replacing the road system which will also create more space.

Wow, do we need to remove the railway viaduct as well, now that would create some space.

Gayle · 26-01-2008, 17:56

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Originally Posted by park381

Wow, do we need to remove the railway viaduct as well, now that would create some space.

No, but just because the railway viaduct goes through the current roundabout doesn't mean to say that the roundabout can't be removed! I think the viaduct was there long before the roundabout and will no doubt be there long after as well.

park381 · 26-01-2008, 17:56

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

Where is it?

Looked on hyndburn councils website - all i can find is the advert.Accrington Town Centre Masterplan Consultation Advert
and this one Accrington Town Centre masterplan goes on display
Looked on URBED - all i can find on that is the project. Urban Regeneration and Masterplanning Consultants – URBED, Manchester UK

Trust HBC to find well known planning consultants

lindsay ormerod · 26-01-2008, 17:57

The plans for the railway viaduct roundabout are the best bit in my opinion; it will make it a real feature; it's worth having a look at this stuff; as has been said before , it's no good grumbling about it afterwards when you have been asked for your opinion beforehand.

garinda · 26-01-2008, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Garinda, the plans will be at the Town Hall for a few days from Monday, I urge everyone to go and visit them and put their opinions in.

Good. I shall hopefully get to see them on Tuesday.

park381 · 26-01-2008, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Gayle

No, but just because the railway viaduct goes through the current roundabout doesn't mean to say that the roundabout can't be removed! I think the viaduct was there long before the roundabout and will no doubt be there long after as well.

Perhaps you are right, may be then they could install more traffic lights.