Hyndburn to be axed. - Page 31

Neil · 11-10-2007, 21:46

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

The whole thing is flawed because people just haven't been given enough information.

That is how Politics works, you only get the information that will make you vote the way the person giving the information wants you too. That is if you are any good at politics anyway. I would make reference to the Gobbin Lamp but can't be bothered to explain just now.

WillowTheWhisp · 11-10-2007, 22:42

Now you can't just dangle a Gobbin lamp in front of me and wander off!

garinda · 11-10-2007, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Neil

That is how Politics works, you only get the information that will make you vote the way the person giving the information wants you too. That is if you are any good at politics anyway. I would make reference to the Gobbin Lamp but can't be bothered to explain just now.

Yes, strange that this daft idea was announced just weeks after the last elections.

Perhaps they thought they couldn't defend spending any money on it, if they'd had to defend the proposal on our doorsteps.

Stanaccy · 12-10-2007, 09:38

One thing about this that bothers me is how do 2 of our surrounding councils cope with no noticeable town name in them?

These being The Ribble Valley and Rossendale. Blackburn with Darwen is self explanatory, but Burnley and Pendle? Do any southerners know what Pendle is?

Of course it will get voted through as most of the borough live in Accrington. How long though afterwards before the name is just Accrington?

Neil · 12-10-2007, 18:43

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Now you can't just dangle a Gobbin lamp in front of me and wander off!

I will type up the story for you soon.

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Originally Posted by garinda

Yes, strange that this daft idea was announced just weeks after the last elections.

Perhaps they thought they couldn't defend spending any money on it, if they'd had to defend the proposal on our doorsteps.

As far as I can remember no Hyndburn money was spent on it. I would have to check through the old Area Council Minutes that I have somewhere to be sure.

garinda · 13-10-2007, 08:43

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Originally Posted by Neil

As far as I can remember no Hyndburn money was spent on it. I would have to check through the old Area Council Minutes that I have somewhere to be sure.

I was referring to the proposed name change, which was announced just weeks after the election, and which will cost us money.

Lilly · 13-10-2007, 15:00

I'm not against the name change myself but I can see that some of you are. Apart from the questionnaire thing in the Market Hall you could have aired your views/concerns at various Area Council Meetings. Did anybody go to any of these?

Neil · 13-10-2007, 15:31

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Originally Posted by Lilly

I'm not against the name change myself but I can see that some of you are. Apart from the questionnaire thing in the Market Hall you could have aired your views/concerns at various Area Council Meetings. Did anybody go to any of these?

I go to the Oswaldtwistle Area Council Meeting whenever I am not working. I have missed the last 2 I think.

BERNADETTE · 13-10-2007, 15:39

I am quite suprised at the reaction this proposal is getting. When I worked in Rishton the general impression I got was that people preffered having the areas to be known as they were prior to Hyndburn being introduced.

garinda · 13-10-2007, 15:54

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

I am quite suprised at the reaction this proposal is getting. When I worked in Rishton the general impression I got was that people preffered having the areas to be known as they were prior to Hyndburn being introduced.

Rishton will still be Rishton, whether it is in the political borough known as Hyndburn, or Accrington and Districts.

The only difference is that keeping the name as it is, won't cost us a penny.

BERNADETTE · 13-10-2007, 15:58

I know that Rishton will still have the same name, I guess what I was really trying to find out is will control still be held by Hyndburn or will it be each district will be able to manage their own finances?

garinda · 13-10-2007, 16:08

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

I know that Rishton will still have the same name, I guess what I was really trying to find out is will control still be held by Hyndburn or will it be each district will be able to manage their own finances?

Nothing will change, that's the whole point. We aren't going back to pre-1974 days, with each town having it's own independent urban council. All power will remain with the muppets at the Town Hall/Scaitcliffe House.

The only thing that they want to change, at some significant cost, is the political name of the borough, from Hyndburn to the parochial sounding Accrington and Districts.

When will they get it into their heads that none of us use the bloody name Hyndburn????

We say we are from Accy/Ossy/Rishton/Harwood etc.

The only people this change will benefit is the leader of the council and the mayor. Who apparently get all teary and hurt, at fancy royal bun fights, when asked to explain where Hyndburn is. They are the only two people who have to use the bloody name outside of the district.

BERNADETTE · 13-10-2007, 16:10

Okay I think I get your point now

katex · 13-10-2007, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Lilly

I'm not against the name change myself but I can see that some of you are. Apart from the questionnaire thing in the Market Hall you could have aired your views/concerns at various Area Council Meetings. Did anybody go to any of these?

Understand where you are coming from Lilly. They are holding public meetings in various towns throughout the coming Autumn (had one in Clayton already).. think I put a post up somewhere.

Unfortunately, I am obliged to work during the day to earn a salary to keep me in the style I am accustomed to

, so disables me from attending these meetings, otherwise I would love to.

We (who are opposed to this change) are doing our best to express our views on here, speak directly to councillors, e-mail and letters to the Observer as well as the survery in the market hall.

When this issue hots up, am determined that views will be aired.

Think maybe the time is coming when we ought to consolidate all our views from here into one paper. Against of course !! ..... or 'for' ? only one point put forward on this issue, and that is we have a renowned Football Team (who everyone takes the mickey when they hear the name). Ok, there is the awful tragedy of the Pals, however, it is quite famous in its own right. Still can't see what the name change will do for our borough either financially or promotion wise.

WillowTheWhisp · 13-10-2007, 19:08

If people in Rishton think that changing the name will give Rishton more significance I suggest they give it a re-think. At present Rishton is an equal part (just as equal as Accrington) within the borough of Hyndburn but once the name change takes place you can bet your bottom boot that it won't be long before the "and district" is missed off for sake of convenience and brevity and then Rishton and all the other "and districts" will be smothered up in the name Accrington. Do they really want that? When the borough was given the name of Hyndburn it was clear that no part was greater than the whole. Changing the name to Accrington and District is clearly saying that Accrington is far more important than any of the other towns.