I actually agree with a Tory shock horror!!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I agree - any change in the law needs civil servants to implement it.
The standard way to avoid that is to pay an enormous sum to some computer software company to design a programme to do it - which has turned out to be an expensive disaster too many times.

Ya the NHS and Passport controll, are but two

[MargaretR]

.. and the Child Support Agency fiasco was the biggest

[cashman]

Originally Posted by cashman

See yer telling porkies again. i quoted yer comment on the "Metal Theft" thread the other day.

Yer as bad as Graham fer avoiding the issue.

[Benipete]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Never thought I'd see the day but, hell yes! Backbencher Harriet Baldwin has mooted the idea that child tax credits should be capped at 4 children for familes that have no wage-earner. About time too, I've seen several instances where a families tax credits award is greater than my annual wage! Unless there are exceptional circumstances, eg you had 2 kids and then had a set of triplets I think that's the way forward. Too many kids think that a life on benefits is an acceptable career choice, time for a change!

I'd go further and cap It at two.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Benipete

I'd go further and cap It at two.

agree 100%

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Benipete

I'd go further and cap It at two.

Well they do in China Beni, the only difference in China is if you have more than two they shoot you

[walkinman221]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well they do in China Beni, the only difference in China is if you have more than two they shoot you

And then bill the family for the bullet

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by walkinman221

And then bill the family for the bullet

That's why they've a thriving economy WM they sell a lot of bullets

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Na come on where's the link to this drivel was it published in the friday edition of the Morning Star

dont need links see it everyday

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

dont need links see it everyday

What with them red blinkers on, do me a favour

[Neil]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

About time too, I've seen several instances where a families tax credits award is greater than my annual wage! .....

What about capping the amount of benefits that can be claiming instead?

Not really thought about the implications of that, it just popped into my tiny mind when I read your comment above.

[wallop79]

Originally Posted by Neil

What about capping the amount of benefits that can be claiming instead?

Not really thought about the implications of that, it just popped into my tiny mind when I read your comment above.

Neil that bill is before parliament right now, benefits will not be as we know them now, there all gonna be called universal credits. It's the biggest shake up in welfare reform that's ever happened, and about damn time too.

[cmonstanley]

lets hope not the biggest cock up and dont forget the biggest outsourcing will b e the private firm who make the decision if your eligable for a sick note BBC News - GPs should 'not sign off long-term sick' the decisions have already been made Universal credit - Disability Alliance Factsheet F55 and i wonder what firm will get the contract.

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by jaysay

What with them red blinkers on, do me a favour

first hand

[cashman]

Gotta say its a ridiculous state of affairs, if they take that away from the docs,then the only people qualified to make that descision,should be "Specialists" in whatever field is relevant, i'm all fer nailing the dodgers, but genuine people are already suffering now, but they omit to tell yeh that, in fact we had that very discussion this afternoon.