I actually agree with a Tory shock horror!!

lindsay ormerod · 18-11-2011, 18:49

Never thought I'd see the day but, hell yes! Backbencher Harriet Baldwin has mooted the idea that child tax credits should be capped at 4 children for familes that have no wage-earner. About time too, I've seen several instances where a families tax credits award is greater than my annual wage! Unless there are exceptional circumstances, eg you had 2 kids and then had a set of triplets I think that's the way forward. Too many kids think that a life on benefits is an acceptable career choice, time for a change!

garinda · 18-11-2011, 18:54

Yup, as much as it shocks me too, to say it, I agree.

walkinman221 · 18-11-2011, 18:56

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Never thought I'd see the day but, hell yes! Backbencher Harriet Baldwin has mooted the idea that child tax credits should be capped at 4 children for familes that have no wage-earner. About time too, I've seen several instances where a families tax credits award is greater than my annual wage! Unless there are exceptional circumstances, eg you had 2 kids and then had a set of triplets I think that's the way forward. Too many kids think that a life on benefits is an acceptable career choice, time for a change!

Spot on linds, also think if the family has no wage earner and are being paid tax credits that are greater than your annual salary they probably be also getting council tax benefit ,housing benefit , jobseekers allowance the list goes on

garinda · 18-11-2011, 19:09

The lucky breeders.

jaysay · 18-11-2011, 19:30

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Never thought I'd see the day but, hell yes! Backbencher Harriet Baldwin has mooted the idea that child tax credits should be capped at 4 children for familes that have no wage-earner. About time too, I've seen several instances where a families tax credits award is greater than my annual wage! Unless there are exceptional circumstances, eg you had 2 kids and then had a set of triplets I think that's the way forward. Too many kids think that a life on benefits is an acceptable career choice, time for a change!

I remember a few years ago Lindsay, a young child was knocked down and killed in Ossy, she was one child in a family of seven kids, the only thing the feckless father could say was he'd lose the child benefit, this is certainly the way forward

cashman · 18-11-2011, 19:52

think linds thread has perhaps drawn summat very ironic out, the first 3 to respond,plus me, probably have socialist leanings? but cos its right we agree wi this torys words, that to me is true democracy, summat me owd mate jaysay has yet to grasp.

walkinman221 · 18-11-2011, 19:56

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Originally Posted by cashman

think linds thread has perhaps drawn summat very ironic out, the first 3 to respond,plus me, probably have socialist leanings? but cos its right we agree wi this torys words, that to me is true democracy, summat me owd mate jaysay has yet to grasp.

Spot on brother

jaysay · 18-11-2011, 20:01

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Originally Posted by walkinman221

Spot on brother

Din't know you two were related WM

Less · 18-11-2011, 20:03

Yes it does seem right,
However there are some folk that only seem to have to drop their kecks and she's preggers again!
So long as they are prepared to contribute & not take advantage, I say, welcome to the world junior, may you go on to be another Faraday.

jaysay · 18-11-2011, 20:03

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Originally Posted by cashman

think linds thread has perhaps drawn summat very ironic out, the first 3 to respond,plus me, probably have socialist leanings? but cos its right we agree wi this torys words, that to me is true democracy, summat me owd mate jaysay has yet to grasp.

The thing is cashy I've never heard a socialist put out forward that made sense, if I had I'd probably agreed wi um

cmonstanley · 18-11-2011, 20:08

i agree as well but diagree with this The Green Benches: Tory plans to force 50,000 disabled youth to work for companies such as Sainsbury's & Tesco's unpaid.

walkinman221 · 18-11-2011, 20:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Din't know you two were related WM

Not quite but not far off actually.

Margaret Pilkington · 18-11-2011, 20:12

Well of course you do C'mon......But you don't make any comment.
And you agreeing with something Tory...are you not well or something?

Less · 18-11-2011, 20:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay

The thing is cashy I've never heard a socialist put out forward that made sense, if I had I'd probably agreed wi um

The reason you've never heard such a thing is because whenever anyone talks sense, you run around in circles with your fingers in your ears shouting, 'La, La, I don't want to know'.

lancsdave · 18-11-2011, 20:16

I agree with it, but as we all know what politicians say and what they actually do are planets apart