I could spit i'm so mad!!! - Page 3

accymel · 17-02-2005, 15:24

Its so true tho Lettie thats where the flaw is with immigration i know of a few asian women whom are forced by their family to bring arranged husbands to live here n even got their so called hubbys visa granted by the home office despite the woman tryin to stop it by telling home office truth b4 hand n still they granted it ... no wonder we have probs the gov are useless

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Originally Posted by lettie

All newborn babies of any descent other than European, North American and Antipodean are immunised for TB before leaving hospital, unless the parents refuse. My mates kids were still done at school the oldest now being 18. Unfortunately the majority of TB that I come across is in young asian women who come over here pregnant and their husband lives here. Basically arranged marriages abroad, get pregnant, bring husband/pregnant wife here then try to get the rest of the family in. Not being funny but that's how it is....

accymel · 17-02-2005, 15:31

I know how well known diseases can spread n kill, my g'ma contracted Polio in the late 50's n died make the local headlines as well n there was a mass screening programme n every effort was to make sure the disease didnt spread , by quarentine n shutting the school where my dad went in order to contain the spread n mass immunisation n looks like its gonna be like that again if things dont get sorted.

chav1 · 17-02-2005, 16:12

we send millions in aid to africa so what exactly are they usingthe money on...?

my gues instead of using the money for treatments they are using it to buy plane tickets to the uk

lettie · 17-02-2005, 16:30

I reckon that most of the money that we send to Africa goes into the back pockets of various African politicians and officials in the form of bribes..

vorlon24 · 17-02-2005, 16:43

Bribery and corruption is a way of life out there - ask anyone who has moved over here and they'll no doubt confirm it.

fireman · 17-02-2005, 17:03

Thanks PENDY a very valid piont I agree and my wife who has now retired as a ward sister does too. The ignorance of lots of these sufferrers is their biggest enemy. TB can be treated but it takes a while to get rid of it. As soon as the patiennt starts to feel better they stop the very importannt course of medication and hence the disease returns in a more virulant form with a resistance to the drugs. I can also agree with LETTIE when the domestics on a ward were part of the ward team they were just as important as the nurses and most of them took a great deal of pride in making sure that the ward they looked after was the cleanest. Another piont as stated by LETTIE my wife used to play hell with many a doctor who seemed to think that he or she was above having to wash their hands between patients one would think that they would know better, but from what I have seen most of the junior doctors would be totally lost if an experienced sister wasn't to hand sorting them out.

accymel · 17-02-2005, 18:11

I recon u all have a point there as it doesnt seem to go where its intented - to the poor ppl

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Originally Posted by lettie

I reckon that most of the money that we send to Africa goes into the back pockets of various African politicians and officials in the form of bribes..

chav1 · 17-02-2005, 18:48

the real kick in the teeth is that africa is now a very popular recruitment ground for alquiad so were basicly either funding them or letting them into the uk at will

watched a trevor mcdonald report a few weeks ago showing that alquiad are having great sucess stiring up hatred towards us and the usa because africa is so poor and we seem to have everything

the uk and usa do have whati think they call " counter insergants " trying to undo what alquiad are doing but no the less its still a big problem

talk about biting the hand that feeds you

Margaret Pilkington · 17-02-2005, 19:28

Regarding the upsurge of hospital acquired infection......I think another thing to considered is the volume of visitors now. With the open visiting system many more people will visit a patient, they sit on the beds, bring in food which is left on locker tops......patients also seem to be out and about in the hospital corridors more than ever they were before.......it was very hard to make sure that there were only 2 visitors to a bed. I'm sure that all these things need to be taken into consideration.
I know that the skin on my hands is wrecked from 30 years of washing with antibacterial cleansers.

fireman · 17-02-2005, 19:30

God arn't you serious!!!!!

accymel · 17-02-2005, 20:52

Good point Margaret tho i know they have adopted the 2 to a bed policy in the maternity wards despite some of our 'friends' tryin the patience of a saint out of the staff when i was visiting my nephew there n everyone else respected the rule.

KiTChener · 18-02-2005, 00:22

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Regarding the upsurge of hospital acquired infection......I think another thing to considered is the volume of visitors now. With the open visiting system many more people will visit a patient, they sit on the beds, bring in food which is left on locker tops......patients also seem to be out and about in the hospital corridors more than ever they were before.......it was very hard to make sure that there were only 2 visitors to a bed. I'm sure that all these things need to be taken into consideration.
I know that the skin on my hands is wrecked from 30 years of washing with antibacterial cleansers.

Good point, Margaret...
I know, on the relatively few occasions that we have had friends/relatives in hospital, we, as a family, have always ensured that we abide by the visiting rules of two to a bed...
only to find that those patients belonging to the ethnic 'minority' seem to have the whole 'family' around the bed.

Yet nothing is said... Is Sister afraid to impose the rules??

chav1 · 18-02-2005, 01:36

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Originally Posted by KiTChener

Good point, Margaret...
I know, on the relatively few occasions that we have had friends/relatives in hospital, we, as a family, have always ensured that we abide by the visiting rules of two to a bed...
only to find that those patients belonging to the ethnic 'minority' seem to have the whole 'family' around the bed.

Yet nothing is said... Is Sister afraid to impose the rules??

well since you brought it up ...

during my stay in hospital an elderly asian lady passed away and he family came to mourn their loss

although annoying their exagerated wailing and screaming was understandable as it is their way but what realy upset the nurses was that they refused to let them take away the body and kept using their mobile phones right there on the ward to tell even more family members to come down to mourn and litteraly pushed nurses away when they tried removing the body and eventually security had to guard the ward to stop more getting in , i personaly counted at least 45 people coming to see the body and there was more than 5 people at a time screaming etc

i would like to add this was a cancer ward and there were very sick people there who were on sesitive machinery which mobile phones could mess up and also could have done with some peace and quiet especialy those who were terminaly ill

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sorry i wandered off topic again but i suppose a dead body covered in blood left in the bed for 4 or more hours isnt too hygenic either

Acrylic-bob · 18-02-2005, 07:20

Along the lines of "what are they doing with all the Foreign Aid?" have a look at this...

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...5630577C815654

chav1 · 18-02-2005, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Along the lines of "what are they doing with all the Foreign Aid?" have a look at this...

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...5630577C815654

We should simply stop sending money and when they get hungry enough they will get some fire in their bellys and revolt and sort their own problems out

i only skimmed through that article but kinda got the jist of it when i saw the words 10 bmw's for his wifes

people appreciate freedom if they have had to fight for it so leave them to it