I. D. Cards on there way - Page 3

Bernard Dawson · 07-05-2009, 12:52

I can understand that some people may well have with the cost of Identity cards. But for me the principle is sound.

The only people I would have thought that would truly fear I.D cards would be those with something to hide.

cashman · 07-05-2009, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

I can understand that some people may well have with the cost of Identity cards. But for me the principle is sound.

The only people I would have thought that would truly fear I.D cards would be those with something to hide.

Whilst i agree principle is sound, pleasing yerself if have one is not! the fact that data cannot be securely looked after is not, n the cost is ridiculous, on that basis i'm wi entwisi.

katex · 07-05-2009, 13:13

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Originally Posted by cashman

Whilst i agree principle is sound, pleasing yerself if have one is not! the fact that data cannot be securely looked after is not, n the cost is ridiculous, on that basis i'm wi entwisi.

It's not like the data on you collected will be anything to do with your religious/crime convictions ... just data to prove who you are.

Had to laugh ... gentleman on the Radio yesterday who was against the card, thought that transvestites would be asked to carry two cards ....

cashman · 07-05-2009, 13:16

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Originally Posted by katex

It's not like the data on you collected will be anything to do with your religious/crime convictions ... just data to prove who you are.

Had to laugh ... gentleman on the Radio yesterday who was against the card, thought that transvestites would be asked to carry two cards ....

it matters not to me what data is stored on em, its the simple fact they have NOT demonstrated it can be Secured, in fact the opposite.

Margaret Pilkington · 07-05-2009, 13:22

There is no valid reason to have one of these expensive pieces of plastic.......I am rarely asked to identify myself at the bank as I have been a customer there for over 40 years.....and my bank card and pin number suffices for ID.
Bernard I have nothing to hide.......but still will not get one of these.
Anyway criminals won't carry them....or if they do they are likely to belong to someone who has nothing to hide.........I do not trust the government with any more of my personal details...they already have enough.

And Gary, yes.....I guess we will have to agree that we hold differing opinions on this pithy subject.

Bernard Dawson · 07-05-2009, 13:24

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Originally Posted by cashman

Whilst i agree principle is sound, pleasing yerself if have one is not! the fact that data cannot be securely looked after is not, n the cost is ridiculous, on that basis i'm wi entwisi.

The cost of rolling I.D cards out across the country are high, but I suppose with security comes a cost.

I think that some of the arguments around the data thing are totally spurious. I would have no problem with having an I.D Card.

cashman · 07-05-2009, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

The cost of rolling I.D cards out across the country are high, but I suppose with security comes a cost.

I think that some of the arguments around the data thing are totally spurious. I would have no problem with having an I.D Card.

i have no problem with having one Bernard, my problem is wi the ******* who safeguard our data, plus the other things i mentioned.

katex · 07-05-2009, 13:28

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

There is no valid reason to have one of these expensive pieces of plastic.......I am rarely asked to identify myself at the bank as I have been a customer there for over 40 years.....and my bank card and pin number suffices for ID.
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Not if you are drawing out a large amount of cash though Margaret. I think it is if the amount you wish to draw is over the amount you are allowed every day from the cash machine.

Bernard Dawson · 07-05-2009, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

There is no valid reason to have one of these expensive pieces of plastic.......I am rarely asked to identify myself at the bank as I have been a customer there for over 40 years.....and my bank card and pin number suffices for ID.
Bernard I have nothing to hide.......but still will not get one of these.
Anyway criminals won't carry them....or if they do they are likely to belong to someone who has nothing to hide.........I do not trust the government with any more of my personal details...they already have enough.

And Gary, yes.....I guess we will have to agree that we hold differing opinions on this pithy subject.

I am not suggesting for one moment Margaret that you have something to hide. But there are people out there who clearly have something to hide.

And if the price of carrying one of these pieces of plastic around is increased security than I think it's price worth paying.

cashman · 07-05-2009, 13:46

how will it increase security if its voluntary?

katex · 07-05-2009, 14:01

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Originally Posted by cashman

how will it increase security if its voluntary?

That's the bit I don't understand Cashy .. so presumed was a sort of voluntary practice run, to see if they worked ?

Wynonie Harris · 07-05-2009, 14:11

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

The only people I would have thought that would truly fear I.D cards would be those with something to hide.

I truly fear them, because I wouldn't trust this shower of incompetents to run a chip shop, never mind set up and run something like this securely and efficiently.

Bernard Dawson · 07-05-2009, 14:15

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Originally Posted by cashman

how will it increase security if its voluntary?

Voluntary or not, I think given the chance the majority of people would have no objection to carrying an I.D card.

cashman · 07-05-2009, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

Voluntary or not, I think given the chance the majority of people would have no objection to carrying an I.D card.

thats no argument Bernard, the majority are not terrorists.

Bernard Dawson · 07-05-2009, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

I truly fear them, because I wouldn't trust this shower of incompetents to run a chip shop, never mind set up and run something like this securely and efficiently.

Which ever Government is in power you would thought in this day and age that personal data could be kept secure.

I still think the principle of I.D cards is right,irrespective of some of the perceived problems.