I find it hard to believe this ... - Page 2

MargaretR · 17-01-2011, 11:44

At one stage in my life I never had a day without pain. The diagnosis was osteoarthritis.

I used to long for a week without pain now and again so I could catch up on a lot of physical activities which I had to forgo.

Paracetemol didn't even take the edge off it. I spent a few years taking distalgesics to make life tolerable, but then the NHS withdrew it from prescription. I was prescribed Solpadine which contains codeine. I became addicted. I can remember the feeling of euphoria that it gave me.
I was a pain free zombie.

My health further deteriorated until I realised that I was surviving but not living, and the only help I could get (if any) had to be self help.

Taking responsibilty for your own health is a difficult step to take, and I admit that I wouldn't have done it unless I felt at 'rock bottom' and had 'my back against the wall'.

Now after a few years of using alternative medicine, most days are pain free, and the days I get pain are very tolerable - I don't even take an aspirin or a paracetemol ever !!!!

I still have osteoarthritis in several places (confirmed by xrays), but the pain I found intolerable wasn't due to it. The NHS failed to diagnose what the true cause of my pain was. I had to find out for myself by trial and error. Too many doctors take the easy way out and drug people to mask symptoms.

I realise that many medical conditions are not curable by 'alternative' medicine,
but don't automatically assume that yours can't be.

Margaret Pilkington · 17-01-2011, 11:53

Once Market forces are allowed to govern medical practice and health care you are on a slippery slope.
Successive governments have meddled in health care....setting daft targets and the like.......this means that qualified health care professionals are giving the care the government thinks the population need rather than what it actually should be doing.
Successive governments have let the population think the Health service is safe in their hands.......it isn't, and never will be, because their ideas on what should be delivered is different from what the professionals would like to deliver.

In my estimation this is a way to stealthily dismantle the NHS and bring in some sort of Private health care provision(already some NHS ops are farmed out to private facilities).......and they are bamboozling the electorate into thinking that they are going to benefit by having a choice, based on outcomes.
No politician should be trusted to do right by the NHS.

Margaret Pilkington · 17-01-2011, 11:54

I am very very glad that I am out of it.........and will do my utmost to take resposibility for my own health for as long as I possibly can.

Benipete · 17-01-2011, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I am very very glad that I am out of it.........and will do my utmost to take resposibility for my own health for as long as I possibly can.

I'll drink to that.

Eric · 17-01-2011, 18:28

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Originally Posted by garinda

This is happening now...

NHS trusts in north-west ban 57 types of surgery

'The axe will fall heavily on procedures to help with the knees and hips, gynaecology (including hysterectomies for heavy menstrual bleeding), eye cataracts and nearly all cosmetic surgery.

The cuts will also affect procedures for hand and lower back pain, hernias, haemorrhoids, skin lesions, lower jaw and surgical dentistry.'
NHS trusts in north-west ban 57 types of surgery | Society | The Guardian

People will continue to live in pain, because there will be no knee and hip replacement operations. Others will remain blinded by cataracts. All because of the cuts.

Scandalous.

Yeah ... that's what I read. I don't know if my interpretation is right, but I get the sense that NHS trusts are making their own pre-emptive cuts ahead of the expected evisceration by the government. Next thing will be the introduction of private enterprise health care facilities, and tax breaks for the well-to-do that can afford to use them. It seems that post-secondary education and good medical care are about to become the province of the wealthy, with the poor getting the shaft ... as usual.

Mancie · 17-01-2011, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Eric

Yeah ... that's what I read. I don't know if my interpretation is right, but I get the sense that NHS trusts are making their own pre-emptive cuts ahead of the expected evisceration by the government. Next thing will be the introduction of private enterprise health care facilities, and tax breaks for the well-to-do that can afford to use them. It seems that post-secondary education and good medical care are about to become the province of the wealthy, with the poor getting the shaft ... as usual.

Sounds like old Thatcher policies...business as usual then from the tories.

jaysay · 17-01-2011, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Sounds like old Thatcher policies...business as usual then from the tories.

Ya Mancie, same old, same old, cleaning up Labours muck again

Eric · 17-01-2011, 19:41

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Sounds like old Thatcher policies...business as usual then from the tories.

Maybe it's a continuation of Thatcherism ... destroy the working class, with the help of major corporations who export high paying jobs to areas where wages are low and benefits and protection non-existent, and you destroy the only powerful opposition to toryism.

jaysay · 17-01-2011, 19:45

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Originally Posted by Eric

Maybe it's a continuation of Thatcherism ... destroy the working class, with the help of major corporations who export high paying jobs to areas where wages are low and benefits and protection non-existent, and you destroy the only powerful opposition to toryism.

But for major corporations there wouldn't be any flaming jobs in the first place

walkinman221 · 17-01-2011, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Sounds like old Thatcher policies...business as usual then from the tories.

When the election result came to light the first thing that came to mind was people have short memories from the last time the tories where in power.Having said that labour were not any better.

andrewb · 17-01-2011, 21:11

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Originally Posted by Eric

Yeah ... that's what I read. I don't know if my interpretation is right, but I get the sense that NHS trusts are making their own pre-emptive cuts ahead of the expected evisceration by the government. Next thing will be the introduction of private enterprise health care facilities, and tax breaks for the well-to-do that can afford to use them. It seems that post-secondary education and good medical care are about to become the province of the wealthy, with the poor getting the shaft ... as usual.

Expected evisceration? The budget in 2010-11 will be £103.8bn rising to £114.4bn in 2014-15.

Even at a time when the country is having to come to terms with how much it is spending, the Government have protected the NHS. The NHS which the poorest on our society rely on the most.

Do stop the scare mongering.

JCB · 17-01-2011, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Sounds like old Thatcher policies...business as usual then from the tories.

According to Mail Online , David Cameron has attacked Margaret Thatcher for failing to "respect" the public sector .

garinda · 17-01-2011, 21:40

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Expected evisceration? The budget in 2010-11 will be £103.8bn rising to £114.4bn in 2014-15.

Even at a time when the country is having to come to terms with how much it is spending, the Government have protected the NHS. The NHS which the poorest on our society rely on the most.

Do stop the scare mongering.

It's the ultra-conservative Daily Mail, which has screaming headlines about NHS funding being slashed in real terms, because the budget rise was less than the rise in inflation.

The Tory press are the ones who are doing the scaremongering. Suprisingly.

'...there was further controversy after it emerged that next year’s NHS funding rise is below the level of inflation – meaning the amount of money available is in reality a cut. This breaks an election pledge by the Tories for real-term increases.'
Massive NHS shake-up but pen-pushers will survive with jobs running NEW system | Mail Online

andrewb · 17-01-2011, 21:57

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Originally Posted by garinda

It's the ultra-conservative Daily Mail, which has screaming headlines about NHS funding being slashed in real terms, because the budget rise was less than the rise in inflation.

The Tory press are the ones who are doing the scaremongering. Suprisingly.

'...there was further controversy after it emerged that next year’s NHS funding rise is below the level of inflation – meaning the amount of money available is in reality a cut. This breaks an election pledge by the Tories for real-term increases.'
Massive NHS shake-up but pen-pushers will survive with jobs running NEW system | Mail Online

Keep reading..

"A spokesman for David Cameron said there was no question of NHS budget cuts, and that if inflation remained higher than the 3 per cent planned rise, extra money would be found."

garinda · 17-01-2011, 22:03

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Keep reading..

"A spokesman for David Cameron said there was no question of NHS budget cuts, and that if inflation remained higher than the 3 per cent planned rise, extra money would be found."

I did read the 'If' bit, tagged to the bottom of the report.

Hardly noticable, after all the glaring headlines about spending cuts, and cuts in services the NHS are suffering.

Odd really.

The normally loyal Tory press leading the scaremongering.