I miss the permissive society

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

This idea that we must be inclusive of all genders….both real and perceived(after all there ARE only Two genders whatever the loony leaning leftists think) is trying to exclude biological women to placate the trans lobbyists….so is self defeating…you cannot be inclusive if half of the population are excluded by an ‘inclusive ideology’

I do know what you are saying Marge and I am in total agreement but your post is a bit, (sorry), more than a bit above my head, I was never very "verbose" in English language at Woodnook but once I left school at fifteen my word skills increased ten fold but not always for the better.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Why is it above your head Taddy?

I am not sure which bits of my post you do not understand… or are ‘over your head’.
And if you do not understand what I have posted, then how can you agree with it?

We do not stop learning when the school gates clang behind us.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by cashman

who is andym?

Him, Her, It, whatever!

Andy M, a member of the Halifax social media team

[Ryewolf90]

Originally Posted by cashman

who is andym?

Andy M is the Halifax Social Media loser who said if you don't like pronouns we use your free to close your accounts and take your money elsewhere.... They deserve to lose their job.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Ryewolf90

Andy M is the Halifax Social Media loser who said if you don't like pronouns we use your free to close your accounts and take your money elsewhere.... They deserve to lose their job.

I quite agree, but you can guarantee his superiors are part of the wokeratti crowd & instead of sacking him they'll probably promote him.

[taddy]

…you cannot be inclusive if half of the population are excluded by an ‘inclusive ideology’[/QUOTE]

What, This is what I can't get my head around Marge.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Ryewolf90

Andy M is the Halifax Social Media loser who said if you don't like pronouns we use your free to close your accounts and take your money elsewhere.... They deserve to lose their job.

ta ryewolf i was totally lost with that, fortunately have never bothered with the Halifax.

[Less]

Originally Posted by taddy

…you cannot be inclusive if half of the population are excluded by an ‘inclusive ideology’

What, This is what I can't get my head around Marge.

It's as clear as the face on the back of your neck when it's a foggy 30th of February.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Taddy…just think about it for a moment……half(or roughly half) of the population are women.
If you remove all terms that relate to women, from speech, from literature etc….then you are not being inclusive.
Being inclusive means that all members in society have equality….are recognised for their unique attributes…the things that make them…well, them.

Describing women as people with ovaries…rather than women(for fear of upsetting those biological women who self identify as men….but are STILL female) is erasing women from speech….or saying people who menstruate, rather than calling them women…again to save the tender feelings of transgender men(who are biologically female) is insulting to the vast majority of women who are not transgender.

Now Taddy that may seem a verbose answer….but it explains how women….who identify as women are being cancelled for a very small minority……making us EXCLUDED,

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Less

It's as clear as the face on the back of your neck when it's a foggy 30th of February.

Less…don’t pretend that you do not understand it either.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Less…don’t pretend that you do not understand it either.

What I’m finding hard to come to grips with is (and I’ll prove I’m making this up as I go along, by using Graham Jones’s favourite percentage).
97% of the population are happy to be whichever sex they are, this includes homosexuals and lesbians, they feel no need to use a different toilet to that of their own sex.
It’s an awkward and tiny minority that go out of their way to draw attention to themselves by demanding that the rest of us should cow-tow to whatever trendy non-sexual sexuality they feel should be given priority over ‘normals’ seating (or standing) position in whichever toilet they use.

I just wish the people that have sympathy for these bog standard whiners (P.C. Brigade?) would get a life of their own then maybe they could tell the nuisance 3% to shut up and look for a way to fit in with the rest of us.

[Margaret Pilkington]

See…I knew you understood what I meant.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

See…I knew you understood what I meant.

Eh?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes….you KNOW!!!

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Taddy…just think about it for a moment……half(or roughly half) of the population are women.
If you remove all terms that relate to women, from speech, from literature etc….then you are not being inclusive.
Being inclusive means that all members in society have equality….are recognised for their unique attributes…the things that make them…well, them.

Describing women as people with ovaries…rather than women(for fear of upsetting those biological women who self identify as men….but are STILL female) is erasing women from speech….or saying people who menstruate, rather than calling them women…again to save the tender feelings of transgender men(who are biologically female) is insulting to the vast majority of women who are not transgender.

Now Taddy that may seem a verbose answer….but it explains how women….who identify as women are being cancelled for a very small minority……making us EXCLUDED,

Oh Marge, After that expletive I am even more confused but if you are saying which I think you are, that a male who has his b-----s removed can then say (He) is a female then he should have been working as I and many others (Lads) did when they left school before these "snow flakes had finished sucking on their Mothers appendage's then I will back you 100%
Oh, This new Ruby Ale is every bit as powerful as the old Hobgoblin, time for another one before the (old ) lass say's, That's enough.
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