I wonder what the outcome was????

[cherokee]

" I cannot shake your hand sir" Im a Muslim and your a man .......

Just browsing before i go off to bed and found this..... I think its disgusting actually, but did get me wondering what the outcome was...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...youre-man.html

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by cherokee

" I cannot shake your hand sir" Im a Muslim and your a man .......

Just browsing before i go off to bed and found this..... I think its disgusting actually, but did get me wondering what the outcome was...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...youre-man.html

When is this country going to stand up to the Muslims and tell them that they live in a Christian country and must abide by our rules? If their rules clash with ours, our rules take precedence.

In any case didn’t anyone have the wit to suggest wearing gloves?

However it would appear that she was trying to make a propaganda statement just like that schoolgirl quite a while back. The whole incident could be turned right around so that it appears that Blair wouldn’t shake hands with her because she was a Muslim.

Mind you I wouldn’t shake Blair’s hand with or without gloves.

[flashy]

'The woman had earlier insisted that it was contrary to her religious teaching for her to touch a man'


well excuse me, this is another case of....'why is she a copper in the first place'?
surely she will have to arrest a 'man' at some point in her career, will she let him run off because she cant touch him for religious reasons?


what is this world coming to???????

[Ber999T]

i dare say the PC lot will be saying "oh well done nice job!!!!!"


Fully agree with JB our country our rules or leave!!

[AccyLass]

If it is part of the job to touch a man, she should not be a copper

[blazey]

Traditionally barristers don't shake hands with each other apparently, or so I read in a law magasine. It said to be cautious of work placements of it as you could be sneered at for not knowing the custom! I spoke to the young barrister who I'm shadowing in August though and he said it's not ALL barristers but it can happen! scary!

It's a very different but very similar scenario in some ways, so I thought I'd just add that.

[Tin Monkey]

What a surprise!! An anti-Muslim news story in the Daily Mail. Whatever next??? Bare breasted women in The Sun?

[blazey]

Originally Posted by AccyLass27

If it is part of the job to touch a man, she should not be a copper

This isn't why she isn't shaking his hand and I think that is really obvious. Shaking hands is a greeting to men traditionally as a sign of being equal to one another, and muslims still follow the tradition that men are the greater sex. I think she's being quite respectful to the police officer considering, and treating him the same she'd treat any other man. Good on her I say.

And Jambutty, since when has it been a 'rule' to shake hands? I met Lolly on the bus yesterday and I didn't feel compelled to shake her hand, even though thats typically what you do when you meet someone for the first time. Don't be such a dimwit.

[polly]

I am old enough to remember life in Britain in the 60's and 70's. then men regularly ignored women and shook hands with the 'head of the household' eg the male.
It took the 1976 Sex Equality Act and lots of social changes, for women to be offered the opportunity to shake hands with men, so I see this attitude as being a great set back for women. Let this carry on and we will find ourselves back in the kitchen and by the way in a minority in the police force . I also remember when 'WPC's' did only the paper work and call outs involving children.God forbid we go back to that.
Did anyone else notice in the article that the mentioned that this women was a 'non asian Muslim' I think the key to the incident lies there. Converts always interpret a religion more zealously than thos born to the same religion.
As for shaking hands with a barrister, who would want to? Well ok maybe their bank manager!

[jaysay]

Well to be quite honest I'm sick of hearing about Muslims, I agree with JB on this when in Rome do as the Romans, this woman must have known that most of her work means dealing and touching other people a good percentage of them men, so why want a job in the police, or is it just a case of minorities undermining the British way of life.

[panther]

bloody pathetic....yet again!

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by blazey

Traditionally barristers don't shake hands with each other apparently, or so I read in a law magasine. It said to be cautious of work placements of it as you could be sneered at for not knowing the custom! I spoke to the young barrister who I'm shadowing in August though and he said it's not ALL barristers but it can happen! scary!

It's a very different but very similar scenario in some ways, so I thought I'd just add that.

What caught my eye in your post blazey was “you could be sneered at for not knowing the custom!”

Now that overwhelms me, completely overwhelms me. Not because you quoted the statement but because of that attitude still prevails.

Sneering at people just because they don’t know something is inexcusable, particularly from a profession that is allegedly extremely well educated.

I’ve always been taught that if I do not know something then ask someone who does. Sadly over the years I have fallen victim to such an attitude many times. Because I dared to ask a question. I guess that it was a childish attempt by someone to show how superior they were to me.

I thought that such an attitude had died out in the modern ages but to find it alive and kicking in the legal profession is astounding.

Psssst! Magazine is spelled with a z not an s. But then it could have been a typo seeing as the z and s keys are adjacent to each other. However the real point is, that as a prospective lawyer you really should check your post before posting it, if you want to make a good impression.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by jambutty

What caught my eye in your post blazey was “you could be sneered at for not knowing the custom!”

Now that overwhelms me, completely overwhelms me. Not because you quoted the statement but because of that attitude still prevails.

Sneering at people just because they don’t know something is inexcusable, particularly from a profession that is allegedly extremely well educated.

I’ve always been taught that if I do not know something then ask someone who does. Sadly over the years I have fallen victim to such an attitude many times. Because I dared to ask a question. I guess that it was a childish attempt by someone to show how superior they were to me.

I thought that such an attitude had died out in the modern ages but to find it alive and kicking in the legal profession is astounding.

Psssst! Magazine is spelled with a z not an s. But then it could have been a typo seeing as the z and s keys are adjacent to each other. However the real point is, that as a prospective lawyer you really should check your post before posting it, if you want to make a good impression.

Naughty, naughty JB if we all had to be word perfect on here there wouldn't be to many people posting, I know I'd be knackered

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by blazey

This isn't why she isn't shaking his hand and I think that is really obvious. Shaking hands is a greeting to men traditionally as a sign of being equal to one another, and muslims still follow the tradition that men are the greater sex. I think she's being quite respectful to the police officer considering, and treating him the same she'd treat any other man. Good on her I say.

And Jambutty, since when has it been a 'rule' to shake hands? I met Lolly on the bus yesterday and I didn't feel compelled to shake her hand, even though thats typically what you do when you meet someone for the first time. Don't be such a dimwit.

Did I say that it is a rule to shake hands? I don’t think so.

Your interpretation of shaking hands is as far from the truth as you can get. The reality is that men would shake hands when they met to show each other that they didn’t have a weapon in their hand. It then developed into a form of greeting when men no longer carried weapons as a matter of course, which was then extended to women as a courtesy.

I’m disappointed in you for having to resort to name calling. However, you are aware that it takes one dimwit to recognise another? So welcome to the dimwits club.

[panther]

well blazey ya asked for that.....