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25-03-2009, 04:57
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if this guy is guilty there is no justice
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25-03-2009, 07:53
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
As you say, if this goes through then its time for all blokes to give up.
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25-03-2009, 08:06
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
That is ridiculous!
It's a night of regret... albeit one she can't remember but no need to call it rape!
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25-03-2009, 10:12
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
How does anyone know at what point someone is too drunk to consent? Perhaps as well as conventional protection, people are going to have to start taking breathalisers out now whenever you think you might meet someone you end up staying the night with...if you cant drive you cant......
She certainly had a very clear memory of the Law upon waking though! Surely theres a big difference between Rape and a Mistake.
Best Regards - Taggy
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25-03-2009, 10:16
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
In the report it more or less says she had 3 bottles of wine, on this I have some observations 1/ I'm glad I'm not a friend, 3 bloody bottles 2/ it appears she must drink this much regularly, you don't drink so much unless your used to it. 3/ to accuse the guy of rape must tell this woman something, stop drinking an make sure your in control if you engage with the opposite sex 4/ like entwisi said if he is convicted blokes may as well give up. Rape is a terrible crime, but for a woman to cry rape in this instance is bordering on the ridicules
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25-03-2009, 10:47
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
How drunk was he? If he was sober then its rape... if he was as drunk as her then surely the same rules apply for both and he wasnt in a fit condition to say no either... he should have counter claimed that she raped him....
You dont have to drink the same amounts to be equally drunk.. we all know that yes?
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25-03-2009, 10:56
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
Also, they say not in a condition to say 'yes', but if you are sober don't often actually say 'yes' do you ... just sort of happens, unless you say 'no' ... If you don't say 'no' usually a sign for a fella' to carry on. Love Taggy's remark about the breathalyser.
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25-03-2009, 11:06
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
If he had have raped her then Im sure he wouldnt have stayed there til the following morning.
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25-03-2009, 11:14
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
its women like this that make it so difficult for women that have been raped or sexually assaulted to get the man convicted, really really annoys me!!
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25-03-2009, 11:19
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
How did she know that they had sex if she was that drunk?
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25-03-2009, 11:29
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
He told her in the morning
Then she went for an examination to be sure
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25-03-2009, 11:30
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
This is going nowhere, the CPS feel obliged to run these "Non Starter" cases following pressure from various groups. The Government keep fiddling with the wording of the Act but a jury of 12 men AND women are just not convinced "beyond reasonable doubt". We are not talking about stranger rape here we are talking about adults who know each other and often work together.
Still the lawyers will be rubbing their hands.
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25-03-2009, 11:32
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
and yes I agree with emamum that these idiots are making it harder for real rape victims
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25-03-2009, 11:43
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
Quote:
Originally Posted by steeljack
sounds a right old slag to me
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Him or her?
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25-03-2009, 12:03
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Re: if this guy is guilty there is no justice
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Him or her?
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