if you have a fat kid ....blame the microwave

[Lilly]

I don't think it's the microwave that makes people fat. It's the junk 'food' that's being cooked in them.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Lilly

I don't think it's the microwave that makes people fat. It's the junk 'food' that's being cooked in them.

... and the good food made less nutritous by them....

[jambutty]

It’s not the microwaves that are the problem but the ready meals that are heated up or cooked in them. It’s all those E numbers and additives. And now science has declared that there is a positive link between E numbers/additives and child hyperactivity.

Anyone with half a brain [email protected] wouldn’t put a sealed container in a microwave as that article that you pointed us to uses as an example why not to use a microwave. Also only an out and out fool would heat up a baby’s bottle and stick it in it’s gob without testing it first.

If I have a choice I will use the gas oven rather than the microwave but that is only because the oven cooking takes longer and I can stay at the keyboard.

The problem with cooking for one is that you still have the same number of pots and pans to wash that you would have when cooking for a family of four or more.

Talking of TV chefs like you were Ianto.W. – I wonder how much cooking they would do if they also had to do the washing up by hand?

Most of the ready meals especially supermarkets own brand are less nutritious anyway. Even home cooked meals can have the goodness boiled out of them. But worse than that is the raw food that you buy. It isn’t as nutritious as it used to be because the god of money has taken over and vegetables are grown too fast. Meat on the hoof is reared with adulterated feed to increase the yield. Poultry is a classic example. Vegetables need the growing time to develop the nutrients and taste. You cannot hurry nature and if you do the penalty is lesser quality goods.

Even if you grow your own vegetables organically in your own garden you are more likely to be using seed of lesser quality vegetables rather than the older and tastier varieties. Even genuine Jersey Royals don’t taste half as good as they used to.

The only really fresh fish that you are likely to get is if you catch it yourself or you are lucky enough to find an inshore fishing boat that delivers its catch ashore the day that it is caught. Otherwise the deep sea trawlers are at sea for weeks at a time and the catch is frozen in the hold. By the time that a fishmonger gets it, it is weeks old and has lost much of its flavour.

Ah! Well! Time for a frozen pizza heated in the microwave.

[MargaretR]

Extracts from the links I gave earlier -

<<The conclusion was clear: microwave cooking changed the nutrients so that changes took place in the participants' blood; these were not healthy changes but were changes that could cause deterioration in the human systems. Significant changes were discovered in the blood of the volunteers who consumed foods cooked in the microwave oven. These changes included a decrease in all hemoglobin values and cholesterol values, especially the HDL (good cholesterol) and LDL (bad cholesterol) values and ratio.>>

<<Lymphocytes (white blood cells) showed a more distinct short-term decrease following the intake of microwaved food than after the intake of all the other variants. Each of these indicators point in a direction away from robust health and toward degeneration. Additionally, there was a highly significant association between the amount of microwave energy in the test foods and the luminous power of luminescent bacteria exposed to serum from test persons who ate that food.>>

Is that not reason enough to say 'microwaved food is bad for you' ?

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Extracts from the links I gave earlier -

<<The conclusion was clear: microwave cooking changed the nutrients so that changes took place in the participants' blood; these were not healthy changes but were changes that could cause deterioration in the human systems. Significant changes were discovered in the blood of the volunteers who consumed foods cooked in the microwave oven. These changes included a decrease in all hemoglobin values and cholesterol values, especially the HDL (good cholesterol) and LDL (bad cholesterol) values and ratio.>>

<<Lymphocytes (white blood cells) showed a more distinct short-term decrease following the intake of microwaved food than after the intake of all the other variants. Each of these indicators point in a direction away from robust health and toward degeneration. Additionally, there was a highly significant association between the amount of microwave energy in the test foods and the luminous power of luminescent bacteria exposed to serum from test persons who ate that food.>>

Is that not reason enough to say 'microwaved food is bad for you' ?

Nope! And I read the article that you pointed us to.

Medical science is not as accurate as the boffins like to make out. Every person is different and could react differently to the same intake.

Were all the people who took part in the test of the same or similar blood group or tissue type? Were the volunteers purged of ‘bad foods’ for at least 48 hours before the test?

I have a full blood test twice a year and have done for the last 15 years, which necessitates me not eating or drinking anything except water for 12 hours before the legalised vampire draws the blood. The tests have always come back showing no problems at all. On one occasion I completely forgot about the forthcoming test and had my normal breakfast of a cereal with cold milk and loads of sugar, not forgetting several cups of sweet tea during those ‘fasting’ hours. The result on that occasion was no different to all the rest. The test was classed as normal. No raised blood sugar levels no nothing.

Many scientists have specific funding to carry out a particular research. If they can come up with some startling results the funding continues and they have an income for a few more years. If they don’t, the funding dries up and they have to do something else, for which they may not get funding.

Sorry but the best that I can do is to say that there may be something in what the boffins state but I would need further independent evidence to change my mind.

[ANNE]

So if microwaves are to blame for fat kids. What was to blame for fat kids pre microwave.?

[Tin Monkey]

Originally Posted by ANNE

What was to blame for fat kids pre microwave.?

They didn't exist. Historians have shown that no children were overweight prior to 1978. Fact!

[Lilly]

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

They didn't exist. Historians have shown that no children were overweight prior to 1978. Fact!

There must have been some. Nowhere near as many as today though and I would think that's down to too much time on the x box and too much junk food nowadays.

[Ianto.W.]

Bring back rationing even the kid's of the Blackmarket barons were thin, they were to busy delivering bent grub.I personally do not remember any fat people post war only one I recolect was in the ffifties and he had 'glandular problems his only problem was finding clothes to fit him,he had a v sown in his backside,that's how I remember him.microwaves were an invention of wartime, they were used to create localised heat to enable the production of fuel and hydraulic pipes for aircraft, Bristol Aircraft at Clayton had one, it came frm Usa, it was considered a very dangerous machine to work on as it emitted waves that made your hair fall out,I had to attemt to repair itin about 1964 but it was beond me a firm frm Manchester came to it they were calle d
radiovisor or something like that, yes leaky microwaves are very dodgytackle

[jambutty]

That’s nonsense Tin Monkey. They mean FEW overweight children. During my school years (up to 1952) we had a couple of fat lads in my class, as did other classes. Their problem was pies, meat pies, potato pies and chips and puddings.

The picture is of little podgy me in 1939.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

They didn't exist. Historians have shown that no children were overweight prior to 1978. Fact!

i must have imagined the big overweight guy in my classes 52/59 also the 3 in my class 59/63,the latter being a smaller class. think back to your school days Tin Monkey the Historians are talking crap or lying. they DID exist, just not as many.

[garinda]

Apparently microwaves are used to cook crack cocaine, and most drug addicts seem to be very slim.

[mrskitty]

Originally Posted by jambutty

Also only an out and out fool would heat up a baby’s bottle and stick it in it’s gob without testing it first.

Theres loads of them around-they test the bottle for the first few weeks then get used to how long to put it in the microwave then after that just heat the bottle n give it straight to the baby-even if they use different microwaves
My friends do it all the time-even the ones i consider to be fairly good parents in all other aspects.

I once had a friend stay at mine with her very young baby-she made the bottles and whilst they were still boiling hot put them in the fridge(!),then when she wanted them,put them in the microwave (whilst i cringed n bit my tongue),then gave it straight to the baby-but not the first time cos i said my MW may be a diff wattage to your own so test it....so she did.......by dipping her finger in the milk

[jambutty]

Originally Posted by misskitty

Theres loads of them around-they test the bottle for the first few weeks then get used to how long to put it in the microwave then after that just heat the bottle n give it straight to the baby-even if they use different microwaves
My friends do it all the time-even the ones i consider to be fairly good parents in all other aspects.

I once had a friend stay at mine with her very young baby-she made the bottles and whilst they were still boiling hot put them in the fridge(!),then when she wanted them,put them in the microwave (whilst i cringed n bit my tongue),then gave it straight to the baby-but not the first time cos i said my MW may be a diff wattage to your own so test it....so she did.......by dipping her finger in the milk

That’s a people problem not a microwave problem.

A bit like blaming the car when someone knocks someone down.

[beechy]

slightly of thread it was disclosed yesterday that three
obese children i think in newcastle were being taken away
by social services for their own good..not the microwave mind