I'm going outside now, I may be some time - Page 5

Margaret Pilkington · 14-10-2011, 14:07

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Originally Posted by mobertol

cow Noun. 1. A contemptible woman, a 'bitch'. Derogatory, but often used less aggressively, as an affectionate aside, as in 'silly cow', see also 'moo'.

From a dictionary of Slang...

I'm pretty sure the intention was to insult.

Anyway all the details of his tantrum/walkout are published in the Obby today.......no picture of PB in that article, but he still manages to get his mug in the rag on another page.

Neil, when you implied I was biased...you are right. Not in a political sense, but in the fact that do not like PB........I haven't ever made any secret of that.
I think hell would have to freeze for me to warm to that man.

Bernard Dawson · 14-10-2011, 14:07

Not all Council meetings are adversarial. Before the Cabinet meeting when Peter did his walkabout, we had a Planning meeting which went on for nearly 3 hours, and everyone behaved themselves.It was an excellent meeting.

Margaret Pilkington · 14-10-2011, 14:09

So it can be done then........so why on earth should one member of the council bring it into disrepute?

Bernard Dawson · 14-10-2011, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

So it can be done then........so why on earth should one member of the council bring it into disrepute?

Most Councillors get on well together, irrespective of which party they belong to. Peter can answer for himself, but these walkouts for me are starting to get a bit tedious.

Ken Moss · 14-10-2011, 14:33

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

Not all Council meetings are adversarial. Before the Cabinet meeting when Peter did his walkabout, we had a Planning meeting which went on for nearly 3 hours, and everyone behaved themselves.It was an excellent meeting.

I must concur, Bernard. This morning I chaired a Resources Overview and Scrutiny Committee which was completely different to the one that Cllr Britcliffe attended on 3rd October. Everyone came away feeling very positive about the recommendations to be sent to Cabinet and I hope Cllr Marlene Haworth, who was invited as a speaker on the Market Hall and made some very worthwhile contributions, agrees.

There are productive cross-party discussions every day, it just seems to be the odd member who tries to turn every one of them into a soapbox.

Margaret Pilkington · 14-10-2011, 15:09

don't they call it 'grandstanding'?.........I think my initial thoughts on the situation were the right ones.....he is lacking the oxygen of publicity. How sad!

mallard · 14-10-2011, 16:11

and when you report something they don t want to nowe

garinda · 14-10-2011, 16:52

Interesting letter in the Observer.

From the Springhill Community Association, the West Accrington residents' group, and the Milnshaw Residents Association.

Who seem to side with Cllr. Britcliffe, over the issue which prompted his early departure.

They have basically labelled the closure of a town centre advice centre, which is to be relocated in a 'B.M.E.' (Black & Minority Ethnic) centre on Hannah Street, up a steep hill, not on a bus route, and a long way from the town centre as 'racist'.

Apparently the B.M.E. centre has secured funding from the council of £36,000.00 for the next three years.

Elsewhere in the paper it's reported closing the Cannon St. advice centre will save £10,000.00.

Not sure if it would have caused me to leave a meeting early, or if it's racist, but when the facts start to appear, it does make you wonder if Cllr. Britcliffe was right to be angry, with what the council have done.

Personally I would remove all funding using tax payers' money from any B.M.E. centre.

Who by nature, and their very name are racist, separatist, and divisive, when it comes to a unified community.

Thinking about it, I wouldn't have walked out.

I'd have stayed.

Shouting things about 'idiocy', and 'disgrace'.

Carry on Britcliffe bashing now....

Margaret Pilkington · 14-10-2011, 17:07

There is nothing wrong in being angry, there is nothing wrong in having a discussion....but walking out is not the answer....especially not if you want to solve the problem.
You stay, you lock horns and you try to come to some kind of compromise.

Removing funding from the B.M.E. would result in cries of 'racist'....because those pepole are the ones who think that racism only affects them....and it doesn't.

We have had this discussion before about racism.
Positive descrimination in favour of B.M.E's is just as racist as racism against them........but it doesn't seem to count for much.

However much you agree with PB's point, he was still wrong to walk out on a meeting where he might have made a difference.

garinda · 14-10-2011, 17:08

I mentioned the other week, when town centre benches were removed, to stop drunks fighting, that I'd had a déjà vu moment, imagining that I was back living in loony Lambeth in the eighties.

I think I've just had another.

garinda · 14-10-2011, 17:13

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

There is nothing wrong in being angry, there is nothing wrong in having a discussion....but walking out is not the answer....especially not if you want to solve the problem.
You stay, you lock horns and you try to come to some kind of compromise.

Removing funding from the B.M.E. would result in cries of 'racist'....because those pepole are the ones who think that racism only affects them....and it doesn't.

We have had this discussion before about racism.
Positive descrimination in favour of B.M.E's is just as racist as racism against them........but it doesn't seem to count for much.

However much you agree with PB's point, he was still wrong to walk out on a meeting where he might have made a difference.

I agree.

I wouldn't have left the meeting early, as I said.

Now the facts are emerging, I'd have stayed, and probably burst a blood vessel.

entwisi · 14-10-2011, 17:33

See my post #2, only way to influence anything is to be party to the debate

Margaret Pilkington · 14-10-2011, 17:42

Yes, I spotted it and mentioned that someone had made this observation....and it is right....absolutely spot on!

jaysay · 14-10-2011, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Political Column, as far as I'm aware.

Peter still gets his name and face in every week, no one ever needs to worry about that....

Yip see what I mean

jaysay · 14-10-2011, 17:46

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

I know a narcissist when I see one.
I had the misfortune to be married to one for 8 years.
We went for hypnotherapy during a brief reconciliation attempt, and the therapist refused to continue treating him because 'he has a personality disorder which would be dangerous to attempt to remove'.

Narcissistic personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Um whats the female equivalent