I'm going outside now, I may be some time

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Neil

What you need is sandwiches and a drinky poo to keep your stamina up during the long slogging matches

I believe Herns do a good line in butties Neil

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well the record does seem to have been stuck for 18 months now, Hate Peter, Hate Peter, Hate Peter, Hate Peter

He will cope - he loves himself enough to redress the balance.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by garinda

As witnessed by the closure of the tourist information centre in the Town Hall on Saturdays, this doesn't seem a particularly high priority.

Odd that's been closed to save money, yet funding can be found for the B.M.E. centre on Hannah St.

Along with the removal of benches, for people to use, who may need a place to sit.

It doesn't particularly give a welcoming reception to visitors to the town centre.

A cutback of £22,000 on a service that is to end is finding funding?

I ask again, why did the Britcliffe administration not simply end the service themselves?

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by Neil

Beside the racist aspect of this why is the Council encouraging them to pull out of the Town Centre?

I would have expected the Council to be encouraging business, companies, advice agencies and whoever else to move into the town centre?

It is a council service, no one is encouraging anyone to move out of the town centre.

Out of interest, how many of those who are now 'discriminated against' used it before?

It has been open to the public for some little time....

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

I ask again, why did the Britcliffe administration not simply end the service themselves?

See previous post, re: two wrongs not making a right.

I'll ask again. Why are the council funding organisations that discriminate against people because of race and ethnicity?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I believe Herns do a good line in butties Neil

Maybe they could get a good deal


I do like to lighten the atmosphere a little when needed

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Out of interest, how many of those who are now 'discriminated against' used it before?

Don't know.

Could it be the use of the term Black & Ethnic Minority?

Or perhaps the staffing at the centre, which make people think it's not inclusive of all residents?

Scaitcliffe Community Centre

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by garinda

See previous post, re: two wrongs not making a right.

I'll ask again. Why are the council funding organisations that discriminate against people because of race and ethnicity?

And I'll say again that they aren't.

The advice service is being moved to the Scaitcliffe Centre, something which is open to all and always has been. The 'funding' as it has been called is to pay for a part time member of staff to run the service, just as it always has been at Cannon Street. In just over two years it will cease as it will have no practical function.

Let me put it this way, a recent idea to cut a service which helped around 55 people per month was blasted as unfair. A decision now to phase out a service that helps over 1,500 per year is also unfair.

We all pay for services that we don't personally use, should we stop them all?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

Scaitcliffe Community Centre

As he's listed as a member of staff at the centre, did Cllr. Dad support the relocation?

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by garinda

Don't know.

Could it be the use of the term Black & Ethnic Minority?

Or perhaps the staffing at the centre, which make people think it's not inclusive of all residents?

Scaitcliffe Community Centre

The only people bringing the term BME to the table are those who feel that they are being discriminated against somehow. The same argument could be levelled at Scaitcliffe House, staffed predominantly by caucasians although it doesn't seem to stop residents of all creeds coming to the building.

I also note that the well-known BME resident Doreen Pollitt is Chair of the Scaitcliffe Centre.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

And I'll say again that they aren't.

The advice service is being moved to the Scaitcliffe Centre, something which is open to all and always has been. The 'funding' as it has been called is to pay for a part time member of staff to run the service, just as it always has been at Cannon Street. In just over two years it will cease as it will have no practical function.

Let me put it this way, a recent idea to cut a service which helped around 55 people per month was blasted as unfair. A decision now to phase out a service that helps over 1,500 per year is also unfair.

We all pay for services that we don't personally use, should we stop them all?

Sorry, you might as well talk to a brick wall.

You will never convince me that tax payers' money should be spent funding any organisation, that by it's name and nature, is both discriminatory, and divisive.

Be that gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, or whatever else the trendy liberal elite think would benefit from positive discrimination.

We have laws that protect against discrimination.

Positive discrimination stinks.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by garinda

As he's listed as a member of staff at the centre, did Cllr. Dad support the relocation?

The website could do with updating then. As came out during the Scrutiny process, Cllr Dad is not a member of the Scaitcliffe Centre staff any more.

Cllr Dobson is paid a healthy management fee for his co-consultancy at the Hyndburn Community Resource Centre on Cannon Street and yet the O&S Committee (of which I am Chair) found that the work he does is cost efficient.

One thing I have learned is that anything can look suspicious if you don't have all the facts.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

The only people bringing the term BME to the table are those who feel that they are being discriminated against somehow. The same argument could be levelled at Scaitcliffe House, staffed predominantly by caucasians although it doesn't seem to stop residents of all creeds coming to the building.

I also note that the well-known BME resident Doreen Pollitt is Chair of the Scaitcliffe Centre.

Nuff said

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

The only people bringing the term BME to the table are those who feel that they are being discriminated against somehow.

Er...according to the council's download, regarding the relocation, the term B.M.E. was raised when H.B.C. consulted the Hyndburn Black & Ethnic Minority Forum, who apparently gave the proposal their full support.

Originally Posted by garinda

'The Hyndburn BME Forum has been consulted on this proposal and has offered its full support.'

http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...e_Services.pdf

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

He will cope - he loves himself enough to redress the balance.

na won't know about it, its only us that have to read the crap over and over and over and over again