I'm sick to death with Charities

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Originally Posted by AccyMad

I can't believe that someone in this line of work has spoken about the finances of the people in their care, to anyone outside of their work environment - sorry but that is most unprofessional.

What can you believe then?

No actual person was named, it was what we sensible folk call a generalisation, just as a Lawyer or a Doctor can talk about their experiences or knowledge they have gained within their professions without actually having to betray any confidences.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I suppose the Italians don't have a branch of the Anti Vivsection League
NAVS : Home

That sort of donation would bring you trouble here.

The following link explains their research and work -you can read it in English. They do some of our embryo work on the farm (the cow in the photo is one of ours). Cesare is a pioneering clonation scientist -he cloned the first horse, Prometea, to give birth to a son, Pegasus.

His work for organ donation is with pigs -I have no problem with eating meat and if a pig's liver could help to prolong or save a person's life that's OK by me. Their work is centered on the culturing and growth of the organs in the laboratory thus avoiding un-necessary animal death.

http://www.avantea.it/

They are a registered charity and have never had problems with Anti-vivisectionists, as far as I know, as they don't kill animals in their research.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I can remember coming home with little books of pictures of children....babies, smiling girls. cheeky faced boys. We were told to sell these pictures for a penny or twopence and bring the money into school and it would go towards feeding these orphans and disadvantaged children.

Despite the fact that we were poor, we always cent some money back with the stubs of the books.
Ma used to give sixpence a week to the Catholic Church too, for their missionary work.

She used to say that although we had very little, there were lots of children who had even less.

We used to have exactly the same thing Margaret at junior school -it was called St. Joseph's penny.

These days I think that charity really is better kept close to home - where maybe you can see some of the effects in your local community and for local people. Too often all this money given for overseas and to large organisations just seems to disappear without any trace of improvement where it was meant to go.

There's often a feeling that it's just another kind of business.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I can remember coming home with little books of pictures of children....babies, smiling girls. cheeky faced boys. We were told to sell these pictures for a penny or twopence and bring the money into school and it would go towards feeding these orphans and disadvantaged children.

Despite the fact that we were poor, we always cent some money back with the stubs of the books.
Ma used to give sixpence a week to the Catholic Church too, for their missionary work.

She used to say that although we had very little, there were lots of children who had even less.

We used to have exactly the same thing Margaret at junior school -it was called St. Joseph's penny.

These days I think that charity really is better kept close to home - where maybe you can see some of the effects in your local community and for local people. Too often all this money given for overseas and to large organisations just seems to disappear without any trace of improvement where it was meant to go.

There's often a feeling that it's just another kind of business.

[cashman]

Thats St Josephs tuppence Di, yeh done it twice.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

We used to have exactly the same thing Margaret at junior school -it was called St. Joseph's penny.

These days I think that charity really is better kept close to home - where maybe you can see some of the effects in your local community and for local people. Too often all this money given for overseas and to large organisations just seems to disappear without any trace of improvement where it was meant to go.

There's often a feeling that it's just another kind of business.

Our little books, in which you bought a kiddy, was called Sunny Smiles.

They never gave you enough darkies. They were good sellers. White kids with lazy eyes were harder to shift.

We also had the Junior Missionary Association. You collected donations from people weekly, and put the money in a church shaped box, which was opened once a year, and used to teach the little piccaninnies about Jesus, and to be good Methodists.

Praise the Lord.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by mobertol

We used to have exactly the same thing Margaret at junior school -it was called St. Joseph's penny.

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My dad - always maintained that St. Joseph's Penny was really for the Nun's gin money

Have always wondered whether the missions really do as much good as they make out - presumably education in poorer countries is a good thing but I don't like the fact that it is closely tied to religious indoctrination.

I always think of the film "The Mission" which tells such a terrible story.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

Our little books, in which you bought a kiddy, was called Sunny Smiles.

They never gave you enough darkies. They were good sellers. White kids with lazy eyes were harder to shift.

Trust you to remember that!

I wonder what people actually did with them once they'd bought them?

Stick them in scrap book and build up a rainbow family like Brangelina perhaps

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

My dad - always maintained that St. Joseph's Penny was really for the Nun's gin money

Have always wondered whether the missions really do as much good as they make out - presumably education in poorer countries is a good thing but I don't like the fact that it is closely tied to religious indoctrination.

I always think of the film "The Mission" which tells such a terrible story.

New Sunday night period drama, just started.

BBC One - Call the Midwife, Episode 1

Based on a real midewife's books.

The nuns there are nice, on the whole, and did a good job for those in need.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

New Sunday night period drama, just started.

BBC One - Call the Midwife, Episode 1

Based on a real midewife's books.

The nuns there are nice, on the whole, and did a good job for those in need.

Have you seen the film "Magdalene" based on a true story in Ireland -scarey story! Different times, different mentalities.

New drama looks interesting, will have to wait for DVD, as usual!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Have you seen the film "Magdalene" based on a true story in Ireland -scarey story! Different times, different mentalities.

New drama looks interesting, will have to wait for DVD, as usual!

Yes, I actually watched it again, the other week.

Heartbreaking.

Mind you, that just didn't happen in Catholic Ireland.

Some poor girls spent their lives in local institutions, just because they became pregnant out of wedlock, and were locked away for life, labelled as sexual degenerates.

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Originally Posted by mobertol

The following link explains their research and work -you can read it in English. They do some of our embryo work on the farm (the cow in the photo is one of ours). Cesare is a pioneering clonation scientist -he cloned the first horse, Prometea, to give birth to a son, Pegasus.

His work for organ donation is with pigs -I have no problem with eating meat and if a pig's liver could help to prolong or save a person's life that's OK by me. Their work is centered on the culturing and growth of the organs in the laboratory thus avoiding un-necessary animal death.

http://www.avantea.it/

They are a registered charity and have never had problems with Anti-vivisectionists, as far as I know, as they don't kill animals in their research.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, for answering that, I was Sooooo, tempted to have yet another go at her pathetic little, (was it a threat? Is she the one with the zimmer frame & ski mask?), attempt on your beliefs, go for it girl I love pork scratching, any by-product from that which will elongate a human life I'm all for.

Please excuse me one of my rabbits has awoken from the effects of the stun gun I'm testing, I'll have to attack it's eye's with this deoderant I'm checking for swine flu'.

[MargaretR]

I have no objection to you having a pig organ transplant should you need one.
There should be no rejection problem for you since you have admitted to living like one.

I did not express my own views on the matter of vivisection - was just surprised that it was being done openly in Italy, whereas here it does tend to get done 'on the quiet'.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by garinda

New Sunday night period drama, just started.

BBC One - Call the Midwife, Episode 1

Based on a real midewife's books.

The nuns there are nice, on the whole, and did a good job for those in need.

I am not much of a fan of TV.......but this is my favourite program of the moment.......and Joy of Joys, they have commissioned a second series.
I enjoyed the book immensely and usually TV programs fail to meet my expectations...not this one.
Miranda Hart is absolutely spot on for the part of Chummy.
If you haven't watched this series yet.......I implore you....please settle down to an hour of enjoyment next Sunday....BBC1 8pm.

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

I have no objection to you having a pig organ transplant should you need one.
There should be no rejection problem for you since you have admitted to living like one.

I did not express my own views on the matter of vivisection - was just surprised that it was being done openly in Italy, whereas here it does tend to get done 'on the quiet'.

Oh diddums, do I feel yet another severe learning curve from being put on your ignore list?

Why not do yourself a favour, just ignore AccyWeb, nothing on here suits your mind set.