In Car Music

[park381]

Originally Posted by accyman

Maybe the copper simply didnt like the killers,not only am i shocked at the police even bothering a motorist for playing music but also at the amount of moning minnies agreeing with the coppers actions because once in a while they hear the faint noise of music from a passing car.Just wait until you have a boy racer with boom box and 8 speakers sat outside your house in his corsa playing music you will have somat to moan about then

No different than your next door neighbour playing his/her records to loud

the argument that you cant drive properly if your musics loud preventing you from hearing surrounding noise is bollocks or should deaf people not be allowed to drive or those hard of hearing.

That's why emergency vehicles are fitted with "flashing lights" as well as sirens

Anyway loud music keeps me awake at the wheel especialy the killers they rock

now im off to check teh decibel levels of my farts before i get nicked for doingthat in my car as well

mind it's not a wet one

[accyman]

constant loud music from a neighbour is a lot different than a factory fitted car stereo been used passing you house it is simply no where near teh same and as somone who has suffered annoying neighbours playing loud music at all hours i can assure you that a car passing by with music turned up is no where near in teh same league and as for your blue light argument unless blue flashing lights are soley for deaf drivers and not to be seen by anyone else it dosnt matter how loud your music is or what you can and cant hear unless you are blind in which case you wouldnt be behind the wheel of a car

unless guide dogs are more extensivly trained these days


the police officer shoudl be arrested and charged with wasting police time and be ordered to give the driver a hand written appology for interupting his day

[MargaretR]

Any noise that you don't want to hear can be described a nuisance - it intrudes on your thoughts and is pollution.

You should show respect for others by personalising your listening with headphones. One man's music is another man's intrusive noise.

Keep your music to yourself unless it is a collective gathering for the purpose of listening attended by people who have opted to attend and listen.

[accyman]

i listen to live recordings so technically i am amongst thousands

[park381]

Originally Posted by accyman

constant loud music from a neighbour is a lot different than a factory fitted car stereo been used passing you house it is simply no where near teh same and as somone who has suffered annoying neighbours playing loud music at all hours i can assure you that a car passing by with music turned up is no where near in teh same league and as for your blue light argument unless blue flashing lights are soley for deaf drivers and not to be seen by anyone else it dosnt matter how loud your music is or what you can and cant hear unless you are blind in which case you wouldnt be behind the wheel of a car

unless guide dogs are more extensivly trained these days


the police officer shoudl be arrested and charged with wasting police time and be ordered to give the driver a hand written appology for interupting his day

A typical manufacturer fitted car stereo systems can produce a sound level of up to 110dB, where stereo systems have been modified the noise level is greater.

If you were exposed to a sound level of 80/85dB at work your employer would by law need to provide you with ear protection, if he did not comply you would be complaining to the union or HSE rep plus you would go deaf. So why should we have to listen to your car stereo when you drive past us, we are not provided with ear protection.

I applaud the police officer and wish more would follow this officers lead and issue fixed penalty fines for cars that play music so loud it sounds like a chain saw being used.

As you will see from the link an ambulance siren generates 120dB if you were subject to that level of noise on a regular basis you would need a hearing aid because you would be deaf.

Noise and Hearing Loss Prevention - What's New - NIOSH Topic Page

[Neil]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Im sure 95% of Subaru Imprezza Exausts make more noise than his music was.

Is there a noise limit on exhausts? There should be because unlike the music you can't turn them down.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by park381

If you were exposed to a sound level of 80/85dB at work your employer would by law need to provide you with ear protection, if he did not comply you would be complaining to the union or HSE rep plus you would go deaf. So why should we have to listen to your car stereo when you drive past us, we are not provided with ear protection.

you are talking utter bollocks and you know it, by the time the noise has gotten through the car windows the abiant surrounding noise and your windows the noise is minimal from a standard car stereo, your probably one of the sort of people that would scream the may get cancer because you were down wind of somone smoking a cigarette 5 miles away

passing cars making you deaf , get a grip man

[park381]

Originally Posted by accyman

you are talking utter bollocks and you know it, by the time the noise has gotten through the car windows the abiant surrounding noise and your windows the noise is minimal from a standard car stereo, your probably one of the sort of people that would scream the may get cancer because you were down wind of somone smoking a cigarette 5 miles away

passing cars making you deaf , get a grip man

Are we talking triple glazed car windows here, the 110dB noise level from manufacturers fitted stereo systems are not my figures,they are quoted from the RAC & RNID websites
I think it's you that is talking "utter bollocks" to quote your phrase. I will lend you a sound level meter, so that you can switch on your car stereo at full volume (if that is how you listen to it) then stand outside with the meter and record the noise level for yourself I think you would be surprised, or even better still sit in the car with the stereo on and see what level of dB reading you get. I will ignore the comment about smoking

[park381]

I think you should sit down and read these links
Noisy, dangerous and annoying | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express
Car Stereos (Hansard, 11 May 2004)

The second link covers the go faster cars with the big noisy exhausts.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by park381

Are we talking triple glazed car windows here, the 110dB noise level from manufacturers fitted stereo systems are not my figures,they are quoted from the RAC & RNID websites
I think it's you that is talking "utter bollocks" to quote your phrase. I will lend you a sound level meter, so that you can switch on your car stereo at full volume (if that is how you listen to it) then stand outside with the meter and record the noise level for yourself I think you would be surprised, or even better still sit in the car with the stereo on and see what level of dB reading you get. I will ignore the comment about smoking

I don't believe the 110dB from a standard system. I can manage 112dB and mine is nothing like standard. Get you meter out and you can test it if you like.

[park381]

Originally Posted by Neil

I don't believe the 110dB from a standard system. I can manage 112dB and mine is nothing like standard. Get you meter out and you can test it if you like.

The link is in the post above, not my figures but the RAC's here's the link again
Noisy, dangerous and annoying | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express
It would be interesting to check yours at full blast (is that the term) but I have a pressing appointment at BGH next week.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by park381

The link is in the post above, not my figures but the RAC's here's the link again
Noisy, dangerous and annoying | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express
It would be interesting to check yours at full blast (is that the term) but I have a pressing appointment at BGH next week.

I read it and it says

listening to sounds over 85dB for several hours a day can expect to develop hearing loss - and many car stereos dish out 110dB

it does not say standard fit anywhere in that. You other link does not mention levels. It does say this though

Caroline Flint

Regulation 97 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 prohibits the use of a vehicle emitting avoidable excessive noise.

So why are there so many cars with big fat noisy exhausts?

[katex]

Well I, for one, am hopeful this guy loses his appeal in court. Would set a precedence for everyone that thumps out their music too loudly much to everyone’s annoyance.

For the police officer to hear it from his car, was obviously too high a level and a FPN well deserved. Just have to trust the police at times that this was so.

Let’s face it Neil and Accyman .. you two would be the first to be annoyed at his inconsideration .. I am being polite using the word ‘annoyance’ You have always something to say on the manners and behaviour of others … particularly if it may be disturbing your family.

Perhaps he does this every night on his return home from his shift ?

Get the impression he is a ‘right clever Richard’

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Neil

Is there a noise limit on exhausts? There should be because unlike the music you can't turn them down.

Yes I believe there is but not on standard manufacture systems.

A car stationary, parked up is a lot different to a car driving along a road a standard system will be loud if cranked right up but no where near as loud as none standard equipment. (110db on standard maybe but what percent of cars would be this loud 5-10%?

If no complaint was made then there was no need to give him a ticket/fine a simple polite gester would of been good enough (IMO). If the guy knew his rights and how to apply them he wouldnt of got fined, he apears to be arguing his case in court, again if he plays it right and knows what he is doing that fine will dissapear.

Remember the police, police by concent of the governed.

What about Ice Cream Vans, they come round my way after 9pm on school days in the summer? also that police helecopter can generate some good noice at way past 10pm.

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by katex

Well I, for one, am hopeful this guy loses his appeal in court. Would set a precedence for everyone that thumps out their music too loudly much to everyone’s annoyance.

I hope he wins if no comlaint was made then it would apear it was just the coppers annoyance.

Originally Posted by katex

For the police officer to hear it from his car, was obviously too high a level and a FPN well deserved. Just have to trust the police at times that this was so.

How do we know that he could hear it from his car? Trust the police, mmm I prefair evidence or at least a witness/complaint.