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[park381]

Do you think the police are right for issuing a fixed penalty ticket for this

Wirral dad fined for playing The Killers' music too loud - Wirral News

[Mick]

Yes they are some old,or ill or children will be trying to sleep by 10pm so playing loud music is not on.
there is no need for it at all.
i just wish they would do it more often and round here

[park381]

Originally Posted by mick

Yes they are some old,or ill or children will be trying to sleep by 10pm so playing loud music is not on.
there is no need for it at all.
i just wish they would do it more often and round here

I agree 100%, and yes I also think the police should be issuing the fixed penalty tickets round here. Good subject for a PACT meeting.

[Neil]

Not without proof and sound measuring equipment no.

I’m a dad who was driving home from work in a Vauxhall Astra, listening to some music, at what I thought was an acceptable level on my standard factory fitted car radio.

I find it hard to believe a standard fit system could be loud enough to cause a problem outside the car.

It seems like such a silly thing but I’ve appealed the ticket on principle. If there is a legal level of noise that I exceeded I will willingly pay my fine, however when the only evidence is the opinion of a police officer, I feel by paying it I could be setting a precedent for laws to be made up as and when the police suit. I’m still totally baffled and feel like this whole situation is unfair and unjust.

I agree with this point completely. What next a ticket for excess flatulence because the Police Officer thought it was too smelly?


Now if we are talking about very loud music in cars that is different. I do think it can effect you in a may that could make driving unsafe. You can't hear or feel the engine revs which can make setting off from a junction feel different for example.

If the Police are going to issue a ticket for excessive noise then there should be a legal measurable limit outside the vehicle. This should apply for all the vehicles noise like its exhaust for example.
This is what they do with tinted windows, they measure the light permissibility through the front side and windscreen and if below the legal limit you get a ticket and possible a prohibition to drive the vehicle.

[vera]

I think it was correct to fine the driver for playing music too loud. It can be very annoying. I think that others may not like the music i play, e.g opera, so i keep it too a level that only i can hear.

[cashman]

i think it was wrong............... not only fine the thoughtless pigs, smash their radios up as well.

[park381]

Originally Posted by Neil

Not without proof and sound measuring equipment no.



I find it hard to believe a standard fit system could be loud enough to cause a problem outside the car.



I agree with this point completely. What next a ticket for excess flatulence because the Police Officer thought it was too smelly?


Now if we are talking about very loud music in cars that is different. I do think it can effect you in a may that could make driving unsafe. You can't hear or feel the engine revs which can make setting off from a junction feel different for example.

If the Police are going to issue a ticket for excessive noise then there should be a legal measurable limit outside the vehicle. This should apply for all the vehicles noise like its exhaust for example.
This is what they do with tinted windows, they measure the light permissibility through the front side and windscreen and if below the legal limit you get a ticket and possible a prohibition to drive the vehicle.

I have a good sound level meter, I will carry that round with me, or better still lets get the environmental health people out with their noise meters.
Have you never stopped next to a car at trafic lights and had your car vibrate because of the noise from the vehicle next to you.
Why should I listen to another persons music, this is no different than a noisy neighbour who plays music loud.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by park381

Why should I listen to another persons music, this is no different than a noisy neighbour who plays music loud.

That is like saying why should I have to walk down the street listening to people swearing or smell someone's cigarette or bad body odour or look at someone offence curtains?

I think it comes down to it being the opinion of the Police Officer concerned. It should have been measurable like 10% over the speed limit is etc

[accyman]

bloody disgusting its not as though hes one of tehse idiots with a boom box and im pretty sure there plenty of other more serious crimes they could be preventing at 10pm at night,also i find it very parculiar that a copper cant do a damn thing about noisey neighbours who play louder music night after night yet canpull up a car who may inconvinience someone for a few seconds as he drives by.I woulda ripped up teh ticket and told teh cop to prove my music was too loud because even the council have to have recordings of your noise and teh decibell level to preosecute you or is this yet another case of found guilty without proof


if this is how things are going to be im going to start ringing 999 when these polotions drive around shouting out of megaphones from their vehicles to vote for them,soem people work shifts ya know

[Studio25]

Originally Posted by Neil

...I find it hard to believe a standard fit system could be loud enough to cause a problem outside the car.

The radio in my old Ford can produce enough noise that I can't hear the engine or anything going on outside the car, and that's a factory fit...

Originally Posted by Neil

Now if we are talking about very loud music in cars that is different. I do think it can effect you in a may that could make driving unsafe. You can't hear or feel the engine revs which can make setting off from a junction feel different for example.

Maybe, but that doesn't really matter - they are just knackering their own clutch. The bigger problem is being able to hear ambient noise from outside the car. I was driving through Simonstone about three weeks ago and could hear the dull thud coming from the beemer behind me. I could hear a siren, and when I saw the blue lights behind me I slowed to let it pass - the beemer driver tried to overtake me at the same time the ambulance did.

He realised just in time because the oncoming traffic saw what was happening and swerved to avoid the ambulance. Then, the idiot tried to pass me once the ambulance had gone!

[K.S.H]

Originally Posted by Neil

I find it hard to believe a standard fit system could be loud enough to cause a problem outside the car.

Think again, get in a Mazda 3 with a 6 speaker Bose system in it
Standard fit

[park381]

Originally Posted by Studio25

Maybe, but that doesn't really matter - they are just knackering their own clutch. The bigger problem is being able to hear ambient noise from outside the car. I was driving through Simonstone about three weeks ago and could hear the dull thud coming from the beemer behind me. I could hear a siren, and when I saw the blue lights behind me I slowed to let it pass - the beemer driver tried to overtake me at the same time the ambulance did.

He realised just in time because the oncoming traffic saw what was happening and swerved to avoid the ambulance. Then, the idiot tried to pass me once the ambulance had gone!

Should have got registration number and reported the idiot.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by K.S.H

Think again, get in a Mazda 3 with a 6 speaker Bose system in it
Standard fit

He was in an Astra

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Studio25

I was driving through Simonstone about three weeks ago and could hear the dull thud coming from the beemer behind me. I could hear a siren, and when I saw the blue lights behind me I slowed to let it pass - the beemer driver tried to overtake me at the same time the ambulance did.

He realised just in time because the oncoming traffic saw what was happening and swerved to avoid the ambulance. Then, the idiot tried to pass me once the ambulance had gone!

That was nothing to do with listening to music, he was just an idiot.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by park381

Should have got registration number and reported the idiot.

Why? The Police are too busy listening to other people's music to worry about bad driving.