In the news today...man stabbed to death trying to save son from 50-strong mob

[blazey]

If you are concerned about the sister site Less then feel free to do it yourself. I dont particularly feel the need to register to another version of accyweb just to give them a link to a news story

As for your phone call to the police Keetah, it does sound like a pretty pointless phone call if you have no details of the car! I don't think I would've responded either. How are they meant to assist you with the call exactly?

[Less]

Originally Posted by blazey

If you are concerned about the sister site Less then feel free to do it yourself. I dont particularly feel the need to register to another version of accyweb just to give them a link to a news story

But Blazey it's your duty!
as you said in another thread:-

Quote:
Originally Posted by lancsdave
You never have a good word to say about this forum, so tell me why you come here ?

Cuz I was brought up in accrington, and its accringtonweb. Therefore why shouldn't I use the forum whether I like the people on it or not?

and you never know you might meet a better sort of person there it was after all designed for the 'professional people you know the sort of person you one day hope to aspire to become, go on give it a go, it will add so much to their content having you on board.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by Less

But Blazey it's your duty!
as you said in another thread:-



and you never know you might meet a better sort of person there it was after all designed for the 'professional people you know the sort of person you one day hope to aspire to become, go on give it a go, it will add so much to their content having you on board.

I don't aspire to become a 'professional' in hyndburn. Also it's too much hassle to follow two forums for the same area.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by blazey

I don't aspire to become a 'professional' in hyndburn.

see there is a god.

[keetah992000]

Originally Posted by blazey

As for your phone call to the police Keetah, it does sound like a pretty pointless phone call if you have no details of the car! I don't think I would've responded either. How are they meant to assist you with the call exactly?

by responding to the call-
they had a space of half an hour to get to the field which they chose not to do there were other details i gave them and i did say it was while ago so couldnt remember exact details
it wasnt as though i was ringing and naming a random incedent - it is a nutorious spot for riders dumping their car and burning them
does the firebrigade ask how hot a fire is before responding, or a lifegaurd ask how far i think the person could swim ? no because it is their duty to turn up to incedents and judge them for themselves.

[blazey]

Originally Posted by keetah992000

by responding to the call-
they had a space of half an hour to get to the field which they chose not to do there were other details i gave them and i did say it was while ago so couldnt remember exact details
it wasnt as though i was ringing and naming a random incedent - it is a nutorious spot for riders dumping their car and burning them
does the firebrigade ask how hot a fire is before responding, or a lifegaurd ask how far i think the person could swim ? no because it is their duty to turn up to incedents and judge them for themselves.

Fire services have no legal requirement to respond to your call so that is a bad example to use but what are the police meant to do? The police also have discretion over which crimes they use their resources on and if they charge people... they don't appear to have done something that breaches their duty as far as the law goes... perhaps maybe they have a moral duty to answer your call but it doesn't really sound like it was worth wasting time over in my opinion.

If you were in the police woul you have genuinely responded to it? Remember that the police force spend more time on following up their investigations with paperwork, and do you think this was worth that hassle when they may have been needed somewhere else more urgently?

I had to wait over an hour after being jumped by a gang of girls once, but I still have faith in the police and didn't really think too much about them taking so long. In fact, afterwards I felt like I had wasted their time because I knew there were no witnesses to back me up, at least none that bothered to stop to help me, and no other evidence. For all I know the police could've been busy wasting time on calls like yours that delayed them actually getting to me, same goes for that poor man in the park. I think people waste more police time than they realise because they want a perfect society, and we should just accept it's not going to happen and just accept that sometimes the law is broken and with limited police resources, we unfortunately have to be a bit more selective about which crimes we report an which we dont. Unfortunately that's just the way it is.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by blazey

Fire services have no legal requirement to respond to your call so that is a bad example to use but what are the police meant to do? The police also have discretion over which crimes they use their resources on and if they charge people... they don't appear to have done something that breaches their duty as far as the law goes... perhaps maybe they have a moral duty to answer your call but it doesn't really sound like it was worth wasting time over in my opinion.

If you were in the police woul you have genuinely responded to it? Remember that the police force spend more time on following up their investigations with paperwork, and do you think this was worth that hassle when they may have been needed somewhere else more urgently?

I had to wait over an hour after being jumped by a gang of girls once, but I still have faith in the police and didn't really think too much about them taking so long. In fact, afterwards I felt like I had wasted their time because I knew there were no witnesses to back me up, at least none that bothered to stop to help me, and no other evidence. For all I know the police could've been busy wasting time on calls like yours that delayed them actually getting to me, same goes for that poor man in the park. I think people waste more police time than they realise because they want a perfect society, and we should just accept it's not going to happen and just accept that sometimes the law is broken and with limited police resources, we unfortunately have to be a bit more selective about which crimes we report an which we dont. Unfortunately that's just the way it is.

well that says it all heh,lets be selective about WHICH crimes we report, so Blazey is a closet socialist trying to keep the crime figures down a crime is a crime simple as n somebody driving a car across a darkened field is LIFE threatning to any poor sod walking their dog, or taking a short cut, as i know from the field up owd bobs, but lets not bother reporting that Blazey has spoken.

[lancsdave]

Does anyone here work for the police? Can we see the list of priorities by which we should judge how serious a crime is and wether we should report it. I know it's never been placed in the public domain but give us a sneaky peep on Accyweb and we won't tell

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Does anyone here work for the police? Can we see the list of priorities by which we should judge how serious a crime is and wether we should report it. I know it's never been placed in the public domain but give us a sneaky peep on Accyweb and we won't tell

Oh yes we will Dave, and whats more there shouldn't be a list, the last time I looked the police were there to serve and protect, not pick and choose what crimes they respond to, what may be small beer to our modern day copper, is probable heartbreaking for a vulnerable pensioner. If only these policemen would just think that one day they will be that vulnerable pensioner needing help

[keetah992000]

blazey maybe it was your call wasting the police time that delayed them responding to my call.
:P

[blazey]

Originally Posted by keetah992000

blazey maybe it was your call wasting the police time that delayed them responding to my call.
:P

Well if lying in my own blood in the middle of the road is more important than joy riders then that would just say it all for this society under this shoddy government.

There is a law case called R v Metropolitan Police Comr, ex p Blackburn [1968] which does indeed say that by common law police officers owe to the general public a duty to enforce criminal law, but it also goes on to say that there is a wie discretion as to how that duty is discharged, which inclues how resources are deployed, whether particular lines of enquiry are followed an even if particular crimes should be prosecuted.

Some of will know the latter when you have been pulled over by the police for speeding and have rambled your way out of it

If anything its public policy that they don't charge us for some crimes, because the majority WANT to speed

[blazey]

You also cant respond to every single crime at the second it is reported, it is just not possible