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Old 12-04-2007, 18:51   #46
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Re: Iran to release British Sailors

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Just read through all the previous comments. Like to just make a few brief points-

1. Frankly astounded by the level of racism on display by a number of those posting responses.

2. ERIC- One word required to undertsand why we went to war in Iraq- OIL (No oil in North Korea)

3. JAM BUTTY- Do you honestly believe, does anyone, that the MOD werent completely aware of the stories being sold to the gutter press- of course they were- After all only way to get certain pieces of information into the public domain without being seen as the ones releasing it.

TTFN
Of course we all know that oil is at the root of the invasion. But it requires more than one word. The personality of George W., his desire to finish his daddy's war, the willingness of the US people, devasted by 9-11, to lash out at anyone who may have been responsible. (Not all of them of course, but at least those who voted for the moron who is now in charge). But if the war on terrorism is really a war for oil, how much blood is the damn stuff worth. And the Iraqi people, in a country destabilized by the invasion, are spilling most of it. But apart from the massive civilian losses there are the casualties among the troops.

Canadians are not fighting in the Iraqi section of the war on terror, but they are fighting in Afghanistan. Eight Canadian soldiers, six from the Royal Canadian Regiment and two from the Royal Canadian Dragoons, have died in the last couple of days alone. And this all happens in the week that Canadians are remembering those who fell taking Vimy Ridge 90 years ago. Our troops are certainly not in Afghanistan for oil, we have more than enough oil of our own; Alberta is floating on the stuff.

Let's get political. Our present govt. is Conservative, and this brand of conservatism is from the rural redneck west. Since they have been in power, the Canadian presence in Afghanistan has grown significantly. Candian "peacekeepers" are now backed by armor. In Kingston, which has a large military base - CFB/BFC Kingston is one of the largest in the country - we see more and more uniforms and military vehicles on the streets. The local regiment, the Princess of Wales Own (Kingston), has suffered casualties. So we have to look at more than oil. Perhaps it's that conservative thinking governments (and this could include, perhaps, the Labour Party) will tend to try to achieve a military solution to a political problem. Or to create a problem in order to apply a military solution.
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Old 12-04-2007, 19:16   #47
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Re: Iran to release British Sailors

I was of course being far too simplistic and agree fully with your comments. Your last paragraph is also very correct- as we too have a conservative government- not that we voted for one.
I have tremendous respect for the armed forces and their families, suffering tremendously as a result of these cowboy politics.
Quite literally cowboy as well as anyone who has studied the walk affected by Tony Blair over the last two to three years- check it out and then look at how he used to walk (You tube should have something). Slight swagger, slight lean and arms poised ready to draw his six shooters, don his stetson and ride to the support of Wild George.
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Old 13-04-2007, 18:00   #48
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I've just read a report that the captured sailor (Mr Bean) was upset because the Iranians took his ipod away ........

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23392218-details/Troops+ridicule+Mr+Bean%2C+the+'cry+baby'+captive+ of+Iran/article.do


any suggestions what songs it had on it ?
Yes, I saw reference to that on the April 13th edition of www.eureferendeum.blogspot.com - under the heading - The Faces Of Britain. This item follows, Glory On The Cheap? - which also makes for good reading.
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