Ireland - Page 3

Bernard Dawson · 22-11-2010, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Gremlin

I listen to Radio 4 (cos I hate TV) and after 10 pm the politicians and other learned scholars had a debate on the Irish predicament.

They must have been listening to jaysay because that is more or less what was said.
They have got us by the short and curlies to put it bluntly. I am off to the barbers (lady preferred).

There are major British investments in Ireland. Corporation Tax is low in Ireland. But is that is a justifiable reason for handing over 7 billion pounds of taxpayers money.

What happens also if other Eurozone countries go the same way as Ireland. Do we bail them out as well.

Mancie · 22-11-2010, 22:11

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

so this means gordon brown was right to pump money into the british economy and the tories who are saying labour bankrupt britain are wrong because it was a global recession hey ye i was right all along

Of course Brown was right and the tories knew it..no government can stand back and let the life savings of British people go by the wayside..but now it seems this government are more interested in funding Irish banks.

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 06:16

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Originally Posted by jaysay

It appears that Georgie Boy ain't as reckless as I first thought, it appears that the Royal Bank of Scotland of which 80% is owned by the British tax payer, plus other companies have literally billions of pound invest in the Irish Banks, if they went tits up it would create havoc with the UK economy

Well that just about sums it up.. how stupid could we be to even ask questions on cuts in this country while giving loans to Ireland?.. the tory tea bloke tells us George Osbourne is some sort of shrewd player.. and this goverment are doing the right thing...

MargaretR · 23-11-2010, 06:37

George Osborne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Each year between 2006 and 2009, Osborne attended the annual Bilderberg Conference, a meeting of influential people in business, finance and politics

At these secret annual gatherings our future is planned - undemocratically
BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory
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"Shouldn't we expect that the rich and powerful organise things in their own interests. It's called capitalism."

gynn · 23-11-2010, 06:38

According to BBC News, we are lending Ireland 7 billion at 5% and borrowing it at 1 1/2%. So we make 25 million per year as long as it remains unpaid.

It doesn't mention any payment protection insurance, though. So if it goes unpaid, we will have no comeback, other than taking Ireland to court and getting a county court judgement.

And they will probably be told to pay it back at a pound a week.

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Well that just about sums it up.. how stupid could we be to even ask questions on cuts in this country while giving loans to Ireland?.. the tory tea bloke tells us George Osbourne is some sort of shrewd player.. and this goverment are doing the right thing...

By loaning £7 Billion you in fact saves British investment of £100s of billions seems to make sense to people who haven't an axe to grind with the Government or more likely the Tories

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 10:16

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Originally Posted by jaysay

By loaning £7 Billion you in fact saves British investment of £100s of billions seems to make sense to people who haven't an axe to grind with the Government or more likely the Tories

OK.. and that makes sense to us numbskulls who don't know whats going on.. some bloke on telly told you it's all good business and you feel the need to proclaim his views on here.. well bless us all.

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Mancie

OK.. and that makes sense to us numbskulls who don't know whats going on.. some bloke on telly told you it's all good business and you feel the need to proclaim his views on here.. well bless us all.

Well its a sight better than your drunken prattling

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 11:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Well its a sight better than your drunken prattling

put the kettle on..

JCB · 23-11-2010, 11:13

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

"Shouldn't we expect that the rich and powerful organise things in their own interests. It's called capitalism."

Sir William Harcourt , the Liberal Chancellor of the Exchequer , said in 1894 : " We are all socialists now " .

Today it seems that we are all capitalists now , global capitalists at that .

Even China is included, even though it is still labelled as a Communist state . Why I don't know . Granted it is still totalitarian , but the gap between the rich and poor is growing , and its economy is going at break-neck speed down the capitalist road .

As someone has said : " We are all in it together ."

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 11:25

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Originally Posted by JCB

As someone has said : " We are all in it together ."

And we are "all equal in the eyes of god".. problem is some of us are more "in this" than the tory billionares ..and it don't look to equal when it comes to cutting social housing when the people ruling have got many homes to choose from.

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 11:29

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Originally Posted by Mancie

And we are "all equal in the eyes of god".. problem is some of us are more "in this" than the tory billionares ..and it don't look to equal when it comes to cutting social housing when the people ruling have got many homes to choose from.

Ya have a word with Jack Straw and Michael Meacher

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 11:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya have a word with Jack Straw and Michael Meacher

Maybe.. next time you doff your hat at your lord and master.. put a word in for me.

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 11:40

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Maybe.. next time you doff your hat at your lord and master.. put a word in for me.

Have only just started wearing a hat (over the last three weeks) and unlike you I've never had a lord and master, we only had equals in Hyndburn Tory Ass. even when I was an Executive Office.

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 11:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay

we only had equals in Hyndburn Tory Ass. even when I was an Executive Office.

What you lot got up to in the "Executive Office" is of no concern to me.. but I reckon you could have let the electorate know about it.