Ireland - Page 4

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 14:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Have only just started wearing a hat (over the last three weeks) and unlike you I've never had a lord and master, we only had equals in Hyndburn Tory Ass. even when I was an Executive Office.

Not one to pry but did you get paid for the work you did not do? .. if so were did the money come from to pay you?.. from tory head office?.. and please God don't tell me some idiots elected you...lots of questions to get your head round but I'm sure you can get back with the answers.. remember a week is a long time in politics

Eric · 23-11-2010, 14:22

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

There are major British investments in Ireland. Corporation Tax is low in Ireland. But is that is a justifiable reason for handing over 7 billion pounds of taxpayers money.

What happens also if other Eurozone countries go the same way as Ireland. Do we bail them out as well.

What happens when there is no one left to do the bailing

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 15:57

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Originally Posted by Eric

What happens when there is no one left to do the bailing

There will always be someone left to bail out the banks and governemnts... they are commonly known as hard working skilled low paid workers.. when the axe falls they take it for the boys from Eton/Harvard or whatever silver spoon bum boys yard there happens to be in any country

Eric · 23-11-2010, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Mancie

There will always be someone left to bail out the banks and governemnts... they are commonly known as hard working skilled low paid workers.. when the axe falls they take it for the boys from Eton/Harvard or whatever silver spoon bum boys yard there happens to be in any country

I get your point; but, I was thinking more in terms of countries. If it comes to the point that the only country in the EU rich enough to bail out another lame duck is Germany; what happens then? Do we have a Fourth Reich? Or does the EU implode, and everything gets back to whatever passes for normal?

Eric · 23-11-2010, 18:17

And there are bailouts and bailouts ... if Ireland gets the cash ... and then repays the loan at a higher interest than the money was borrowed at, it may be a good deal finnancially. But then the question pops up: if this government does make money with the deal, what are they going to do with it?

When the US economy took a dump, and the government bailed out GM, Canada came up with a few billion for the bailout. But, the payoff here was in jobs for Canadian auto workers (20% of GM vehicles made in Oshawa, Windsor and other Canadian manufacturing in Ontario .... the Ontario govt. also tossed in a few billion). This, in my opinion, wasn't a bad deal. Sure it was taxpayers' dollars; but it was the autoworkers who benefited.

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 18:38

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Not one to pry but did you get paid for the work you did not do? .. if so were did the money come from to pay you?.. from tory head office?.. and please God don't tell me some idiots elected you...lots of questions to get your head round but I'm sure you can get back with the answers.. remember a week is a long time in politics

Unfortunately I have never made one penny out of politics in fact its cost me a fortune over the years, I have never really wanted to stand for election was never really my scene, my involvement was on organisation and fund raising at which I was very good, or so I'm told. I was also very much involved in local and national charity work again on a totally voluntary basis, now pray tell us what ave you ever done for anybody besides being a pain in the bloody ass

Barrie Yates · 23-11-2010, 19:03

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Unfortunately I have never made one penny out of politics in fact its cost me a fortune over the years, I have never really wanted to stand for election was never really my scene, my involvement was on organisation and fund raising at which I was very good, or so I'm told. I was also very much involved in local and national charity work again on a totally voluntary basis, now pray tell us what ave you ever done for anybody besides being a pain in the bloody ass

C'mon Jay - he can't be totally bad - he is a Man Utd supporter after all

Mancie · 23-11-2010, 19:09

Thank you for your answer Jaysay.. so you spent your own money and time for the tory cause..just wondering if you made jam to raise the coffers of the local tories..anyone who has the guts to proclaim they actually worked hard for nothing, in order to further the havoc and destruction the tories create has me spellbound..but little respect.

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 19:19

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Thank you for your answer Jaysay.. so you spent your own money and time for the tory cause..just wondering if you made jam to raise the coffers of the local tories..anyone who has the guts to proclaim they actually worked hard for nothing, in order to further the havoc and destruction the tories create has me spellbound..but little respect.

Well Mancie I'm not like a lot of people who are in politics for what they get out of it, I was in it because I believed in what I was doing (I was always more concerned with local issues than national and was really only involved national when Ken Hargreaves was MP) As I said to cashy only last week I have totally severed all contacts with the Tory party per say, I think its a case of, hum well, I'll leave it at that, but I still dislike labour with a vengeance

jaysay · 23-11-2010, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

C'mon Jay - he can't be totally bad - he is a Man Utd supporter after all

Thats another reason

Ken Moss · 24-11-2010, 11:08

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I was always more concerned with local issues than national...

Hands off my catchphrase!

jaysay · 24-11-2010, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Hands off my catchphrase!

I was using that phrase before you even knew where Rishon was mate

Wynonie Harris · 26-11-2010, 11:34

Looks like Portugal's going to be the next one in line for a bail out. Better start getting your hand in our pockets, Dave.

Barrie Yates · 26-11-2010, 11:55

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Looks like Portugal's going to be the next one in line for a bail out. Better start getting your hand in our pockets, Dave.

Spoke to s chap who has recently left Spain - after 6 years. He reckons they are the next to crumble, tourism, their only real industry has been declining quite rapidly over the last couple of years apparently and the financial situation is far worse than is being publicised.
Even here, prices are rising quite noticeably.

jaysay · 26-11-2010, 19:12

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Spoke to s chap who has recently left Spain - after 6 years. He reckons they are the next to crumble, tourism, their only real industry has been declining quite rapidly over the last couple of years apparently and the financial situation is far worse than is being publicised.
Even here, prices are rising quite noticeably.

Ya Barrie growth for the last quarter was 0.8% much better than the doom and gloom merchants had predicted