Is it a case of left hand and right hand?

Less · 20-11-2005, 11:20

Is it a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing or is the Government just being silly, again?

As we all know, the licencing hours are to be relaxed allowing 24 hour drinking for the landlords and customers that may want it.
However according to the Sunday Telegraph Binge pubs can be closed within a week

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Pubs across the country which stay open too late or fail to take proper security measures face being closed down within seven days under a tough new regime introduced by ministers.

So the Landlord is now free to stay open as long as he likes but if he does he could lose his business because he is a nuisance, I can't quite follow the logic here, how can we slacken the rope at one end whilst someone is busy trying to tighten it at the other?

Debbie J · 20-11-2005, 11:33

I know it sounds double dutch to me too. The media & those against th new laws reckon alcohol sales will increase by as much as £500.000. What I would like to know is where will this money come from? People will only have the same money to spend when the law comes in. To me it will just give more choice of when to spend it. The only people to possibly gain from this are the night workers whose body clock works opposite to day workers, they will be able to 'go for a pint' after work

Less · 20-11-2005, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Debbie J

I know it sounds double dutch to me too. The media & those against the new laws reckon alcohol sales will increase by as much as £500.000. What I would like to know is where will this money come from? People will only have the same money to spend when the law comes in. To me it will just give more choice of when to spend it. The only people to possibly gain from this are the night workers whose body clock works opposite to day workers, they will be able to 'go for a pint' after work

Debbie I am not trying to make it a debate of who is for or against extended licensing hours we all have our own views on that.

What I am trying to make a point of is, why introduce the relaxed laws if at the same time the landlords are to be put in a position where they can be harshly penalised if they take advantage of the said relaxation!

SPUGGIE J · 20-11-2005, 12:27

Me I would be happy if I come of a nightshift and can get a beer. We had a place that had a breakfast licence so that you bought a beer and a bacon butty at 6 am it was great.

When it closed the number of unhappy guys was unreal as the place was full on payday. Those were the days.

Acrylic-bob · 20-11-2005, 14:04

Oddly enough, I was speaking to a committee member of one of our Working Men's clubs about this issue only the other day. They have applied for a one hour extension to the normal licence, they would have applied for two hours but HBC told them that one hour was all they would allow. For this they have had to fork out over £700 because the new licences will not be granted unless a new set of plans for the premises are included with the application.

The cost of annually renewing the licence used to be £50, now it is pegged to the rateable value of the premises and will cost the club over £300 the larger the premises the more money HBC will rake in.

There is supposed to be a set of regulations made available to licenced premises when new licenses are granted, however, true to form, HBC has said it "has got a little bit behind" and so the regulations covering what is or is not permitted will not be available when the new licenses come into effect.

So if the Local Authority will only permit a one hour extension to licenses, where does this idea of twenty-four hour drinking come from????

SPUGGIE J · 20-11-2005, 14:45

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Oddly enough, I was speaking to a committee member of one of our Working Men's clubs about this issue only the other day. They have applied for a one hour extension to the normal licence, they would have applied for two hours but HBC told them that one hour was all they would allow. For this they have had to fork out over £700 because the new licences will not be granted unless a new set of plans for the premises are included with the application.

The cost of annually renewing the licence used to be £50, now it is pegged to the rateable value of the premises and will cost the club over £300 the larger the premises the more money HBC will rake in.

There is supposed to be a set of regulations made available to licenced premises when new licenses are granted, however, true to form, HBC has said it "has got a little bit behind" and so the regulations covering what is or is not permitted will not be available when the new licenses come into effect.

So if the Local Authority will only permit a one hour extension to licenses, where does this idea of twenty-four hour drinking come from????

The council sitting a bar of their own drinking as and when it suits them.

I am a working mans club member and this carry on for extensions and increased payment is mad. How often is there trouble fights and drugs in a WMC? Think the increase is to cover the mess that will fall from pubs and night clubs.

Acrylic-bob · 20-11-2005, 15:14

Has our own Licencee member nothing to contribute to the discussion....Staggers, where are you?

SPUGGIE J · 20-11-2005, 15:17

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Has our own Licencee member nothing to contribute to the discussion....Staggers, where are you?

Sitting down trying to work out the pro's and conns of this carry on I hope. Too many pubs have gone to the wall recently and more red tape fee's and beaurocratic nonsense is not going to help. Pubs used to be the life and sole of a community, now most are dying a slow death and Westminster aint helping.