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Old 23-02-2008, 13:24   #61
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Just have to be more careful when you around don't I ?
It depends what kind of mood I am in. I can feel some sarcasm coming on today
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Old 23-02-2008, 15:26   #62
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If the Muslim Council of Britain has nothing better to concentrate on it should be disbanded
Why don’t we have an Atheist Council of Britain?
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Old 23-02-2008, 16:01   #63
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Why don’t we have an Atheist Council of Britain?
Probably because it would be classed as being racist
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Old 23-02-2008, 16:04   #64
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Who mentioned colour?
I did - I was pointing out one of the fallible criteria people use to decide whether someone they see is Muslim. They see a brown face and Indian/Pakistani features and jump to conclusions about the person's religious affiliation.
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It just seems like muslims are quick to denounce walkers because they put a tiny ampount of alcohol in crisps but don't seem to mind the ones that drink.


You have made an illogical comparitive assumption here. There are people who do not wish to consume alcohol in any form who have expressed the wish that it be noted on crisp packets so that they themselves can make the informed choice whether or not to eat them. They do not condemn Walkers. They are making a request. They are not saying that no-one else should ever eat Walkers crisps, nor are they even saying that Walkers should not use this method of production. They are simply asking that the information be available so that they know and in my opinion that is not an unreasonable request. As I have already said, for anyone who has a peanut allergy it is vitally important that they know if something could contain a trace of nuts. That doesn't mean contains nuts, it means can have been produced on the same production line as a previous confection containing nuts.

Now whether or not there are people who appear to be Muslim (whether because of their clothing or their physical appearance) and yet are not living Muslim standards, ie drink alcohol, gamble or whatever else (ham sandwich, pork scratchings) that has absolutely no bearing on the matter whatsoever. What one person chooses to do should not affect another person who chooses not to do it. At one time Catholics did not eat meat on Fridays but if one person who was born into a Catholic family yet did not believe in the Catholic faith and only attended mass because they were dragged along by the family, if that one person was to be seen in McDonalds on a Friday evening eating a burger would that make hypocrites of the whole of the Catholic church? Of course not. So what you are saying about 'don't seem to mind the ones that drink' is irrelevant. Muslims (albeit not very devout ones if they drink alcohol) who choose to drink have their own free choice and agency and can choose to do what the heck they like. That shouldn't mean that Muslims who choose not to drink should not be kept informed when a product contains alcohol.
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Old 23-02-2008, 16:04   #65
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Old 23-02-2008, 16:36   #66
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Re: Is it the first of April?

I'm in agreement Willow. It's one of my bugbears too.

You can't tell anyone's religion from the colour of their skin.

Asia, that vast continent, which stretches from Turkey to Japan, includes people of many races and faiths.

For all we know there might be white Muslims stocking up on cooking sherry in Tesco, and no one would be any the wiser.
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Was unaware of their existence, should have know better. There’s an association for everything these days
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Old 23-02-2008, 17:01   #68
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For all we know there might be white Muslims stocking up on cooking sherry in Tesco, and no one would be any the wiser.
Precisely!

And the brown people down the alcohol aisle or buying lottery tickets might be Scientologists or Moonies!
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Old 23-02-2008, 17:50   #69
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Whilst reading up on this, and from which I found out that some Muslims accept the use of alcohol outside the body, I came across this.

'According to statistics, 8% of Americans commit incest i.e. one in every twelve to thirteen persons in America is involved in incest. Almost all the cases of incest are due to intoxication of one or both the persons involved.'
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Gosh, how many American members have we on Accy Web?

I hope none of them are merry on moon-shine, and are diddling their cousins.

I believe it is only in certain parts of the US ... you can tell if you are in the right area if you go into a drug store and see greetings cards on sale which say "Happy Birthday Uncle Dad." And almost on topic: if muslims wish to avoid alcohol, they could eat certified booze free chips (sorry, crisps) and wash them down with American beer
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Old 23-02-2008, 19:31   #70
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screw the muslims i want to know how many bags of crisps can i eat and legaly drive ?
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Old 23-02-2008, 19:36   #71
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I didnt know muslims dont drink!!
I could have sworn iv seen some drinking booze
also fags, which I think they not supposed to do either
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Old 23-02-2008, 20:34   #72
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I didnt know muslims dont drink!!
I could have sworn iv seen some drinking booze
also fags, which I think they not supposed to do either

it is only devout muslims who actually dont drink or smoke panther so i guess the ones that you saw drinking obviously weren't devout or maybe they werent even muslims at all
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Old 23-02-2008, 20:46   #73
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Re: Is it the first of April?

If you go into the article again .. I don't think the paper has very fair with the title .. can be misleading.
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Old 23-02-2008, 20:51   #74
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I sounds like they are a bit fed up with Walkers for not acting on a previous request and just fobbing them off.
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Old 23-02-2008, 21:04   #75
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Muslims cant be as stuffy on the religious front as they make out. They just bang on about stuff when it suits.

I always thought they were stricter than strict on the teachings of Islam especially with regards to male/female relationships. One of the Sponsored links here on Accyweb is for a muslim dating site Single Muslims. I can’t be the only one to have noticed.
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