is John Wayne dead ?

[Margaret Pilkington]

The other thing worth remembering is that the people on the plane who tried to overpower the assailants during the 9/11 didn't know each other....so what you may say.....there was still an element of shock. OK, that I will grant you, but I am sure they were mature men who had had a little more experience of life. These were just kids (although maybe they would not agree with that) who were seeing their peers gunned down...people they had perhaps sat next to in class....done homework with, socialised with.
What a terrifying experience they take into the rest of their lives.
Faced with a similar situation, we ALL think we know what we would do.......but none of us really KNOW. Situations happen that tend to make cowards of us - even if we think we have a plan.

[bullseyebarb]

They were young, in their twenties mostly.......but not kids. Age is not a barrier to preparedness.

[bullseyebarb]

Just to add to the post immediately preceding this one.....here's the take of two Canadians. Eric from Ontario might be interested in their comments. Gosh, does Quebec still count as Canada?

http://www.pierrelemieux.org/artvirginiatech.html
http://www.suntimes.com/news/steyn/3...TEYN22.article

[Margaret Pilkington]

So Bullseyebarb, are you inferring that the students could have done more to
protect themselves? I'm not really sure what you are getting at, that is why I ask that question.
I know that if I go somewhere unfamiliar, I seek out the available exits...mainly in case there is a fire.
Who was responsible for protecting these young people on their campus? (I won't call them kids, now I know they were in their twenties)
Have any lessons been learned from other episodes like this, where gunmen have indescriminately killed students?

And just a thought.......aren't we being a bit insensitive to be discussing what the students MIGHT have done to save lives.

[bullseyebarb]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

So Bullseyebarb, are you inferring that the students could have done more to
protect themselves? I'm not really sure what you are getting at, that is why I ask that question.
I know that if I go somewhere unfamiliar, I seek out the available exits...mainly in case there is a fire.
Who was responsible for protecting these young people on their campus? (I won't call them kids, now I know they were in their twenties)
Have any lessons been learned from other episodes like this, where gunmen have indescriminately killed students?

And just a thought.......aren't we being a bit insensitive to be discussing what the students MIGHT have done to save lives.

No, we aren't being insensitive. That's one of the problems, actually. Ultimately, I think you have to be responsible for yourself. I wish these students, teachers, and campus security guards had had the opportunity to arm themselves appropriately. Unfortunately, that was denied to them. This restriction did not, however, deter the psycho who gunned them down.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

As I said......they had received no preparation for this. That is the key. Most people breeze through life never thinking that something like this might happen to them. I am not one of them.

Yes there's Barb, in her bunker, armed to hell, with enough food and water to see her through months of seige, and damn it she gets stung by a wasp. It goes septic, develps into blood poisoning, and puff, she's off to meet her maker.

Bet you didn't see that coming.

[bullseyebarb]

Originally Posted by garinda

Yes there's Barb, in her bunker, armed to hell, with enough food and water to see her through months of seige, and damn it she gets stung by a wasp. It goes septic, develps into blood poisoning, and puff, she's off to meet her maker.

Bet you didn't see that coming.

Garinda, sweetie, could you possibly be more trite?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

Garinda, sweetie, could you possibly be more trite?

Oh dear, mad lunatic gun men hold no fear for her, but a well aimed quip, and she's floored quicker than a one legged girly with St. Vitus's Dance on an ice rink.

[bullseyebarb]

Originally Posted by garinda

Oh dear, mad lunatic gun men hold no fear for her, but a well aimed quip, and she's floored quicker than a one legged girly with St. Vitus's Dance on an ice rink.

Trite and boring. Ooh, double threat. Care to make it a triple?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

Trite and boring. Ooh, double threat. Care to make it a triple?

Bullets hold no threat, nor sticks and stones, just words.

Pity, I'd have thought you'd have more testosterone to fend off petty insults, and my poor slings and arrows.

[bullseyebarb]

Originally Posted by garinda

Bullets hold no threat, nor sticks and stones, just words.

Pity, I'd have thought you'd have more testosterone to fend off petty insults, and my poor slings and arrows.

Bullets I take seriously. But for your remarks, no testosterone required.

[garinda]

Gee you're so touchy.

I'm glad you're not armed, you might shoot me for having a differnt opinion to your's.

Oh, I forget you are.

Better shoot me now, I certainly don't want to sully myself my body tackling you.

[grannyclaret]

If you dont laugh at life you cry,,,,,,,,,you dont know whats round the corner,,,
I think the words of Eric Idles song are very true,,,,and i am not being flippent.....(silly word that)

[bullseyebarb]

Originally Posted by garinda

Gee you're so touchy.

I'm glad you're not armed, you might shoot me for having a differnt opinion to your's.

Oh, I forget you are.

Better shoot me now, I certainly don't want to sully myself my body tackling you.

Nah. Couldn't be bothered.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

Nah. Couldn't be bothered.

See. Sometimes you drop the tough guy act, and become just so feminine.