Is Our Border Security Improving ? - Page 3

Mancie · 25-04-2009, 01:01

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Can someone tell me why the French allow these camps to exist in the first place , are these people legally in France ? if not , should be easy enough to round them up and ship them out , not like they have disappeared into the 'black economy'

they exist because they are legal under EC laws that the French were the first nation to sign up for.

steeljack · 25-04-2009, 01:12

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Originally Posted by Mancie

they exist because they are legal under EC laws that the French were the first nation to sign up for.

Fair enough , so if they are legally allowed to be in France , and there is "free passage of movement" in the EU why is the UK blocking them ? . The UK is either part of the EU or it isn't .

Mancie · 25-04-2009, 01:41

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Fair enough , so if they are legally allowed to be in France , and there is "free passage of movement" in the EU why is the UK blocking them ? . The UK is either part of the EU or it isn't .

Ah well you are getting to the real bacis Steeljack.. no immagrants are allowed in the UK unless they are legally entiltled to do so..or they may seek asylum ..it's easy to jump a ship from say africa to Spain or travel inland from east europe to France ..but then you have the English channel... that is the main stumbling block for ilegall immagrants... I don't believe all the stuff about free benefits for illegal immagrants.. it's all something the whingers and the Frence cook up to make us feel like it's some sort of Custers last stand here.

steeljack · 25-04-2009, 03:43

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Ah well you are getting to the real bacis Steeljack.. no immagrants are allowed in the UK unless they are legally entiltled to do so..or they may seek asylum ..it's easy to jump a ship from say africa to Spain or travel inland from east europe to France ..but then you have the English channel... that is the main stumbling block for ilegall immagrants... I don't believe all the stuff about free benefits for illegal immagrants.. it's all something the whingers and the Frence cook up to make us feel like it's some sort of Custers last stand here.

now this is what I'm getting at ....can understand how the boat migrants from Africa can enter Europe thru Spain or Italy , but , just for example an Afghani or Iraqi, who wants 'asylum' in the UK has to pass thru at least 7 or 8 countries if traveling overland to get to the channel ports in France including Turkey, Greece, the ex Yugoslav countries, Austria, Germany etc. Wheres the border controls for these countries . No way in hell can I imagine the border police in Iran , Jordan or Turkey allowing undocumented persons transit thru their territory , just does not happen ,have lived there, even the Hajjis heading to Mecca have a tough time , as for transit thru the ex Yugoslav states forget it , Serbs,Croats and Bosnians showing kindness to outsiders ...thats a joke.
Nah, there must be something else going on here with the connivance of various Govts.

jaysay · 25-04-2009, 09:15

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Originally Posted by steeljack

Fair enough , so if they are legally allowed to be in France , and there is "free passage of movement" in the EU why is the UK blocking them ? . The UK is either part of the EU or it isn't .

Most of those canped around the French Ports are not from the EU and therefore have no right to be there Mancie and as far as I'm concerned here neither