Is there one up your back passage?

[MargaretR]

When I lived in Church, it was common knowledge that The Stag was haunted.

Over the years landladies confided in me about the strange happenings they witnessed which were identically described, even though they were told years apart.

My last ex witnessed the spontanous unravelling of a chain around the charity bottle on the bar when there was no-one near it. (there was one other witness, and both were sober at the time)

[garinda]

Ocaisionally I get visual and/or aural hallucinations.

Usually an old, shouty man.

Collarless shirt, black suit, thinning white fuzzy hair, dandruff, watch fob, pasty complexion.

Happily I'm still compos mentis enough (yet) to know what I think I can see, is just the result of a combination of the chemical imbalance in my brain which causes Parkinson's disease, and the drugs I take to help with the symptoms.

I think you'd have to believe in life after death, to accept the existance of spirits, and I don't.

Perhaps if I ever saw something I couldn't explain I'd change my mind.

Though it hasn't happened in the last forty odd years, so the chances seem slim.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by garinda

Perhaps if I ever saw something I couldn't explain I'd change my mind.

What ? Like a post from Jay with none of his belters ?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

What ? Like a post from Jay with none of his belters ?

I can easily explain it.

He doesn't give a flying...fig, and is even beginning to enjoy the mirth they bring.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by garinda

I can easily explain it.

He doesn't give a flying...fig, and is even beginning to enjoy the mirth they bring.

So a dabbler in the dark farts ............ er, arts ! I meant arts ! See it's contagious & supernatural.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by garinda

Ocaisionally I get visual and/or aural hallucinations.

Usually an old, shouty man.

Collarless shirt, black suit, thinning white fuzzy hair, dandruff, watch fob, pasty complexion.

Happily I'm still compos mentis enough (yet) to know what I think I can see, is just the result of a combination of the chemical imbalance in my brain which causes Parkinson's disease, and the drugs I take to help with the symptoms.

I think you'd have to believe in life after death, to accept the existance of spirits, and I don't.

Perhaps if I ever saw something I couldn't explain I'd change my mind.

Though it hasn't happened in the last forty odd years, so the chances seem slim.

Consider for a moment that maybe the drugs you take for Parkinsons are reactivating the 6th sense which humans lost, so enabling you to see what most people cannot, but which has always been there.

In a similar fashion, shamans take Ayahuasca, in order to meet with the ancestors during an 'altered state of conciousness'. Ayahuasca produces DMT in the brain - a chemical which is naturally produced in the brain but in minute quantities in normal circumstances.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Double exposure, picture taken, film not moved on, next picture taken over the previous shot. We've had some interesting ones over the years in the days of the old cameras with film.

My thoughts immediately too -have had a few experiences of that with an old-fashioned camera with film...

Don't believe in ghosts and ghouls -must be some technical glitch.

[cashman]

Well i had a few Hallucinations way back................But not wi a camera.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Consider for a moment that maybe the drugs you take for Parkinsons are reactivating the 6th sense which humans lost, so enabling you to see what most people cannot, but which has always been there.

In a similar fashion, shamans take Ayahuasca, in order to meet with the ancestors during an 'altered state of conciousness'. Ayahuasca produces DMT in the brain - a chemical which is naturally produced in the brain but in minute quantities in normal circumstances.

I do take your point, and accept all that.

Though logic takes over, and tells me there isn't really a nowty owd git sat in the corner of my sitting room.

These hallucinations happen in some people with Parkinson's pre-diagnosis, when there's no drug interference. They did with me.

Another common hallucination is rats/scurrying animals.

I see them very life like rats, but the ones I see have long, finger like claws. Odd.

It does suprise me, logic, being an arty-farty old romantic.

But seeing as I don't believe there's any life after death, I'm going to need to see for myself, something spectacularly unexplainable, to believe it.

[MargaretR]

The phrase 'life after death' is a little misleading.
When you realise that what we term as matter is energy vibrating at a rate which our limited 5 senses can detect, then 'death' means life energy takes another form which our 5 senses can't observe.

[garinda]

The brain's a wonderful, complex thing, and we know very little of it's capabilities.

Most people have some very real dreams.

Doesn't mean that what we experience in that state, is real.

Hopefully.

If it does, I think I've committed lewd acts on a tropical beach, that's always just the otherside of Poole harbour.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Consider for a moment that maybe the drugs you take for Parkinsons are reactivating the 6th sense which humans lost, so enabling you to see what most people cannot, but which has always been there.

In a similar fashion, shamans take Ayahuasca, in order to meet with the ancestors during an 'altered state of conciousness'. Ayahuasca produces DMT in the brain - a chemical which is naturally produced in the brain but in minute quantities in normal circumstances.

I have talked to G about this - I can "hear" my Grandparents "voices" telling me things and giving me advice at particular times -usually when I'm stressed out and need support - I don't believe in life "beyond", it's just my brain working within it's limits with the information it has to hand and what they have said to me over a lifetime-like a giant personalised computer. Also they were and still are important reference points in my life.

In his case it's different and the hallucinations are mostly provoked chemically by the stuff he has to assume every day to control his physical symptoms (more than I could ever imagine having to take)...plus personal experiences with real people. Hats off to him that he can cope, sort it all out in his head and stiill live a full, active and rewarding life.

As to the drug you mention it is much affected by mood when assumed -can give good or bad trips...naturally it may be what reminds us of our lost loved ones and helps memory.

The so-called "sixth sense" for me has always been an innate sense of understanding a set of circmstances, processing them and drawing conclusions.

[MargaretR]

I have read a lot about lucid dreaming and have now developed the capacity to control what happens in my dreams.

I recently was escorted to a classy nightclub by Frank Sinatra, and we sang a duet

[cashman]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

I recently was escorted to a classy nightclub by Frank Sinatra, and we sang a duet

Well yeh never been fussy.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

When you realiase...

Margaret, that isn't going to happen.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

We are no different from the thousands of other chemical compositions on this planet, that can sustain a life force.

I believe that life force is finite.

Without certain criteria, it ends.

This is what I know to be true, and I won't think any differently, until I see some evidence which makes me believe otherwise.

Logic tells me, for many, human nature likes to think differently.

It makes sense of something that can be hard to accept.